komninos (??)
> and yes this is definitely the 'poetryetc'/kinsella school list.
> and there are identifiable characteristics of members of this school, if
> not in the style of their poetry, but in the tone of their emails.
> and none of us are tied to one list, one school.
Yer wot? Pardon? Eh?
To be quite honest matey I dunno what the fuck you're talking about in the
above, it seems to preempt perception of the variousness of others into a
pseudo-academic categorising of experiential actualities, tra la tra la.
A school of e-mails? Begad, sir, I'll not have that.
david b
----- Original Message -----
From: komninos zervos <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: A Caution (P.S.)
> At 05:51 PM 2/6/01 +1000, you wrote:
> This
> >is a topic I am especially interested in because part of my critical work
on
> >Australia's 'new 90s' poetry (once 'emergent') is about creating
different
> >terms with which to discuss the new poetry and the new poetry
communities.
>
> that's right, communities like this one which exist on no physical
> landscape, but in an agreed-upon metaphorical space, cyberspace.
> and there is joy in the real-time
>
> and there _is_ a division amongst poets.
> those that have embraced the new technology, and those that haven't.
> and yes this is definitely the 'poetryetc'/kinsella school list.
> and there are identifiable characteristics of members of this school, if
> not in the style of their poetry, but in the tone of their emails.
> and none of us are tied to one list, one school.
>
> and the on-the-ground schools are centred around poetry performance venues
> and small publications.
>
>
>
> i see an infinite space that we can infinitely expand into, i see few
> restrictions.
>
> i see disembodiment, re-embodiment and multiple being, the multiple
> subject, the pluralist i.
>
> i see australian poets all over the net at ub poetics list, webartery,
> trace, here, net-time, triumph of content, wreyetings, and they are
active.
> represented in the new on-line journals.
>
> and this is just an opinion, but i think poetry on the page really has
been
> going around in circles for about twenty years. maybe thirty.
> nothing really new or exciting has happened in that time.
> ok there are some very good poetry practitioners, most people on this list
> i suppose have achieved as craftspeople in the art but where is the
> dynamism you found in the olson school or the beats or the language poets,
> or even the school of 68.
>
> i find that dynamism amongst hypermedia poets and their on-line
> experimentation.
>
> i welcome the internet and the virtualizing of poetry.
>
> irrespective of the medium, the mode of delivery, poetry is poetry.
> poetry will do what poetry does.
> at the moment i am bored with poetry on the page, it is visually
> predictable and is just going over the same landscape over and over again.
>
> well bye
> love to all the community
> komninos
>
> >I feel passionately about NOT using terms such as 'poetry wars' and
> >'schools', and gossamer lines of flight is one way (not THE way) of
thinking
> >about the way 'new' poetry communities are being created and how they
work
> >(lines of flight is a Deleuzian borrowing and I think someone on that
> >previous discussion employed the term gossamer).
> >
> >regards
> >deb
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Candice Ward <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 5:31 PM
> >Subject: Re: A Caution (P.S.)
> >
> >
> >> Just wanted to add, in response to Jill's comments re the SMH article's
> >> having gone "international," that I'm to blame for that, remember, not
JK,
> >> as I was the one who posted it to Poetryetc. Of course, that makes DEB
the
> >> real culprit (if anyone's to be jack-used for having let Sydney poetry
> >news
> >> out of Australia and onto the "world stage," as someone in the
> >> PoetryEspresso thread termed it)--but maybe this exemplifies what she
> >means
> >> by those (to me, utterly mystifying) references to "gossamer flight."
> >>
> >> 'Night y'all,
> >>
> >> Candice
> >>
> >
> komninos's cyberpoetry site http://student.uq.edu.au/~s271502
> cyberpoet@slv site http://www.experimedia.vic.gov.au/cyberpoet/
> komninos zervos, tel. +61 7 5552 8872
> lecturer in cyberStudies,
> school of arts,
> gold coast campus,
> griffith university,
> pmb 50, gold coast mail centre
> queensland, 9726
> australia.
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