Just so, Alison--thank you.
As the so-called "moderator" whom Jeffrey back-channeled about my so-called
liberal "colleague" (right, we both live to the south of some north) Chris
Jones's son-of-genet posts, I pointed out exactly what Alison says here
about Poetryetc (the 180 members of which have been clumped and personified
as a singularity for the purpose of vilification by Jeffrey)--that it is
most importantly unmoderated (hence no moderators) and, not unrelated to
that freedom of expression, that it had long been committed to tolerance of
many points of view. The one other point I made to Jeffrey about the
son-of-genet posts was their _performed_ nature, and I suggested that he was
taking their sexual content too literally. Certainly, there was ample
signaling on Chris's part of performativity, while there was nothing abusive
or even personal in a list-collegial sense in them--unlike Jeffrey's own
attack on Chris and Erminia specifically. He was lucky in that Alison read
and responded to his post before I did because I doubt that I would have
been capable of her tolerance in the face of such an ugly diatribe--the like
of which I hope we won't see posted here again.
Candice
> Just to say again that this list is not run by "moderators" but by
> three list owners. We all have different views and opinions, but I
> think I can say for all of us that our ideal is a tolerant place,
> which permits debate and, well, hopefully an interesting
> conversation. We all know that we fall beneath our ideal at times,
> but it's survived thus far pretty well intact, despite some
> interesting imbroglios. What is not countenanced here is personal
> abuse or bigotry of any kind.
>
> Genet son of Genet seemed to me provocative, obscene, outrageous and
> various other things, but neither abusive nor bigoted. And we're all
> adults here, aren't we?
>
> Alison
>
>
>> On Thursday 20 December 2001 08:13, you wrote:
>>
>>> When the "son of genet" posts came through a couple of months ago,
>>> filled with bizarre, scatological imagery about homosexuality, I
>>> back-channeled the moderator and objected to --- or expressed my
>>> astonishment at --- the list's entertained welcome of that sort of
>>> hate.
>>
>> Jeffrey
>>
>> I may surprize your rather narrow view of what male homosexuality is
>> to learn I find your statements not only homophobic but deeply
>> personally offensive. i am a leather fag, have you not ever heard of
>> a scat scene? HOW DARE YOU ASSUME I AM HETEROSEXUAL.
>>
>> And yes, I have been a teenage sex worker, I have been bashed, I have
>> been sexually assaulted, I have been a heroin addict. I think it is
>> you who should apologise!
>>
>> Chris Jones.
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