the real question below:
(would not the interesting question concerning politics be how to move
beyond hierarchically organised party politics in a left/right spectrum?
difficult to see how the 'common human' can feel much of a difference
between subordination to power based elites based on whether they (claim to)
adhere to one or the other dogma?
it all smells rigid and static, and always did for the anarchist - but with
the contemporary architecture of global economy, advertising and the
concentration of anarcho-capitalist ownership of global media networks (such
as General Electric, the world's biggest media corp.), politicians, whether
loyal, flexible or inflexible -or to whichever degree they bend or stand
strong, left, right, green or centre-, --todays's politicans, are better
referred to as media circus artists in a monopoly game where the winner
sells most vegetative transponders (viewers) to the advertising
industry.....thus: universal rejection of government is blooming, left,
right and green)
**so much for keeping the dream alive**
- now to real politik:
--if bertinotti is inflexible, why did he not refuse to let his political
counterpart seize control and signal a rise of fascism? who is the martyr,
Carlo Giuliani or Bertinotti, of this summer's political arena in italia?
-i mean either we play chess or we don't, or? wenn schon, denn schon...
ideologies, may they rest in peace..
~~~jmp~~~
----- Original Message -----
From: "Erminia Passannanti" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: opinion - left/right ?
On Sun, 9 Dec 2001 15:25:22 -0000, Lawrence Upton
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>Loyalty to the Italian Communist Party is hard to reconcile with its
>fluctuating electoral performance
>
>Such loyalty clearly doesn't exist in other CPs or we should not have the
>current interesting social situations in the east of Europe
>
>Here CP refers more often to personal services than it does to a political
>organisation - perhaps someone tried "If one is Communist, one dies as a
>Communist" as a recruiting slogan
>
>L
The present situation of Italian communism goes back to the division in the
old Partito Comunista (who divided itself into two wings, the moderate one,
presently colled "The Ulivo" which refers to the ex-communist moderate wing
now gathered together for governability into a system of sympathizing
Marxist socialist parties and the re-constituted ex-communist party ,
called "Rifondazione comunista", who I vote, which is recognizes as its own
the old orthodox Marxist Leninist root. "Rifondazione comunista" 's
charismatic leader is the notoriously faithful and inflexible Bertinotti,
who would shed tears on his own lost battles but not compromise with the
parties involved in the dance for the daily partition of the state command:
who did not coalesce with the members of the Ulivo (causing the victory of
Berlusconi at the last election, since, had he gathered with the others,
Berlusconi, of course, would have not reached the total votes he got, and
this thanks to Bertinotti's integralism) and who voted recently against the
taking part of Italy in the war against the Taliban.
I myself will - of course - die as a communist because it is my ideology, a
philosophy of life as much as it is a way of voting and conceiving
politics. But before I will die, as an old lady I will - oh yes, I will -
gather with my dear comrades in a club for retired communists to watch
the news together, or to play cards against the background of the red flag.
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