http://www.nybooks.com/ Check out the home page article "Our Man in
Honduras" for a really scary read.
Mark
At 09:49 PM 9/10/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>Could you post the URL for the NYRB, please--MW?
>
>(Remember that song from HAIR? "LBJ took the IRT/Down to 4th St USA....)
>
>Candice
>
>
>> No, you have to sign on, and they make you go through 6this every few
>> months, but thereafter their server recognizes you when you log in--it
>> doesn't automatically download.
>>
>> The same is true for the NYRB, by the wy, and even their archive is free.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> At 12:00 AM 9/11/2001 +0100, you wrote:
>>> Ah, it requires you to subscribe, tom, and I don't really fancy having the
>>> NYT downloaded into my Inbox every day.
>>>
>>> So wot was it about?
>>>
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Thomas Bell, Psyd" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 9:28 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Postmodern?/more baroque
>>>
>>>
>>>> this story from the NYTimes might be relevant here?
>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/08/arts/08CONN.html
>>>>
>>>> tom bell
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "david.bircumshaw" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 5:21 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Postmodern?/more baroque
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> While we're at it, you do, like most of us, suck at the trough of
>>>>> bourgeois
>>>>>> society. By the way
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, Mark, we do.
>>>>>
>>>>> Altho' I can claim impeccable Brit working class credentials I'm very
>>>> aware
>>>>> too that my relative poverty is wealth by the standards of the Third
>>> World
>>>>> and as well I have no idea what investments my company pension fund
>>>> derives
>>>>> its returns from.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mea culpa, altho' I'm very innocent by nature.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Mark Weiss" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 10:59 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Postmodern?/more baroque
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> You don't really mean that. Just throw anything at the page? Learn
>>>> nothing
>>>>>> from the practice of one's craft?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course I could say that any prestructured project reifies
>>> hierarchy,
>>>>> but
>>>>>> that would be pretty dumb. Also tactless and (intellectually)
>>> immature.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you don't want to engage an argument just say so. This sort of
>>>> sidestep
>>>>>> just pisses me off. I have a hard time abiding political accusations
>>> or
>>>>>> fools in silence. Reminds me, I guess, of the endless arguments of my
>>>>>> adolescence about who was a better Trotskyist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While we're at it, you do, like most of us, suck at the trough of
>>>>> bourgeois
>>>>>> society. By the way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 08:49 PM 9/10/2001 +0100, you wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 10:29:39 -0700, Mark Weiss
>>> <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The links between the
>>>>>>>>> poet and the literary/cultural theorist is somehow unavoidable. I
>>>>> myself
>>>>>>>>> do not believe in spontaneity and I hope that behind each poet
>>> there
>>>> is
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> project not merely a vent of words, an outburst of tears or joy,
>>> the
>>>>>>> desire
>>>>>>>>> to give find expression for one's wrath.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Theorists, some of them poets, will continue to theorize and
>>>>> occasionally
>>>>>>>> invent isms, but the impact of the link is certainly avoidable if
>>>> theory
>>>>>>>> follows from, is derived from, practice.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Writing spontaneously doesn't mean writing egotistically. Writing
>>> with
>>>> a
>>>>>>>> project in mind often does. One is finally only protected from
>>> oneself
>>>>> by
>>>>>>>> tact and maturity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By the way: tact and maturity are no reelvant measures for poetry.
>>>>>>> these are good measures for bourgeois society.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> erminia
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