yes...
ermi
--- Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Is this a new
> coinage of an old term?
>
> Mark
>
>
> At 11:35 AM 9/9/2001 -0700, you wrote:
> >Dear Douglas,
> >
> >neo-baroque is the rediscovery, exaltation and
> >re-evaluation of the kitsch, it is the attribution
> to
> >its codes of a scheme of values and the
> re-activation
> >of them in the contemporaneity, it is believing in
> the
> >poewer of the false, the artefact as being more
> >meaningful of the true. This raghly: Helton John
> >crying at the funeral of Versace is neo-baroque,
> >(this superficially already gives an example), to
> have
> >a museum of the false (as in my town, Salerno) is
> >baroquesque...Tate Modern in London is neo-baroque
> in
> >its delayed effects of the media...German
> neo-idealism
> >is a form itself of the neo-baroque...performative
> >arts when too self-conscious are neo-baroque...what
> >neo-baroque is not is the strenuous claim for
> >autenticity, for the self, for psychoanalysis...and
> so
> >on...neo-baroque is when in a society poetry, arts,
> >music become more poweful than the effects
> produced
> >by the industry and by the values connected to
> working
> >class struggle...the neo-baroque is in itself a
> parody
> >of the baroque so it has as well critical
> potentials
> >since it reveals its on tools and aims having
> >antecedents,,, and so on,... but I am making myself
> >ready to go to a party, and I will have to be there
> in
> >half an hour: I would gladly retake the
> conversation
> >when I come back home later. Neo-baroque is also
> >politically incorrect since it stresses contrssts
> and
> >exploits them (neo-baroque is when art makes the
> >world, as it is almost the case now, not
> viceversa).
> >The mannerism of our daily communications with
> their
> >fake language and false aims is neo-baroque, so we
> are
> >on the right path.
> >
> >Erminia
> >
> >--- Douglas Clark <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >> Come on ERminia explain neo-baroque! At four this
> >> morning I
> >> explained postmodernism to myself and it didnt
> hurt.
> >> Although
> >> cos I didnt sleep last night I dont know if I can
> >> stay awake
> >> to have G-d explained on Channel 4 at 8 o'clock.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Douglas Clark, Bath, England mailto:
> >> [log in to unmask]
> >> Lynx: Poetry from Bath ..........
> >> http://www.bath.ac.uk/~exxdgdc/lynx.html
> >>
> >> On Sun, 9 Sep 2001, erminia wrote:
> >>
> >> > Having as an literary and aesthetic aim to be
> >> > post-modern nowadays is a meaningless effort
> and
> >> it
> >> > would make own work terribly outdated.
> >> >
> >> > Postmodernity is no longer on, since it has
> >> already
> >> > become an abused and stale subject of studies.
> >> > It has in fact by now been already replaced by
> >> > activist neo-baroque poetry.
> >> >
> >> > this is the new European trend guys. how to
> become
> >> > neo-baroque?: just follow me...
> >> >
> >> > Thank you for ignoring systematically my mails:
> it
> >> is
> >> > a sign that my work is authentically a
> neo-baroque
> >> > fenomenon to which people do not know how to
> >> respond
> >> > (joking!).
> >> >
> >> > ermi
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- Roger Collett <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >> > > What rates can you negotiate for me Joseph?
> >> > >
> >> > > Roger
> >> > >
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: "Joseph Duemer" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > > Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 5:05 PM
> >> > > Subject: Re: Postmodern?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > Being post-modern is more of a condition to
> be
> >> > > negotiated than a choice to
> >> > > > be made.
> >> > > > ======================
> >> > > > Joseph Duemer
> >> > > > School of Liberal Arts, 5750
> >> > > > Clarkson University
> >> > > > Potsdam NY 13699
> >> > > > 315.268.3967
> >> > > > ======================
> >> > > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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