This is far too intellectual for me. I am a simple soul. A mathematician.
Douglas Clark, Bath, England mailto: [log in to unmask]
Lynx: Poetry from Bath .......... http://www.bath.ac.uk/~exxdgdc/lynx.html
On Sun, 9 Sep 2001, erminia wrote:
> Dear Douglas,
>
> neo-baroque is the rediscovery, exaltation and
> re-evaluation of the kitsch, it is the attribution to
> its codes of a scheme of values and the re-activation
> of them in the contemporaneity, it is believing in the
> poewer of the false, the artefact as being more
> meaningful of the true. This raghly: Helton John
> crying at the funeral of Versace is neo-baroque,
> (this superficially already gives an example), to have
> a museum of the false (as in my town, Salerno) is
> baroquesque...Tate Modern in London is neo-baroque in
> its delayed effects of the media...German neo-idealism
> is a form itself of the neo-baroque...performative
> arts when too self-conscious are neo-baroque...what
> neo-baroque is not is the strenuous claim for
> autenticity, for the self, for psychoanalysis...and so
> on...neo-baroque is when in a society poetry, arts,
> music become more poweful than the effects produced
> by the industry and by the values connected to working
> class struggle...the neo-baroque is in itself a parody
> of the baroque so it has as well critical potentials
> since it reveals its on tools and aims having
> antecedents,,, and so on,... but I am making myself
> ready to go to a party, and I will have to be there in
> half an hour: I would gladly retake the conversation
> when I come back home later. Neo-baroque is also
> politically incorrect since it stresses contrssts and
> exploits them (neo-baroque is when art makes the
> world, as it is almost the case now, not viceversa).
> The mannerism of our daily communications with their
> fake language and false aims is neo-baroque, so we are
> on the right path.
>
> Erminia
>
> --- Douglas Clark <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Come on ERminia explain neo-baroque! At four this
> > morning I
> > explained postmodernism to myself and it didnt hurt.
> > Although
> > cos I didnt sleep last night I dont know if I can
> > stay awake
> > to have G-d explained on Channel 4 at 8 o'clock.
> >
> >
> >
> > Douglas Clark, Bath, England mailto:
> > [log in to unmask]
> > Lynx: Poetry from Bath ..........
> > http://www.bath.ac.uk/~exxdgdc/lynx.html
> >
> > On Sun, 9 Sep 2001, erminia wrote:
> >
> > > Having as an literary and aesthetic aim to be
> > > post-modern nowadays is a meaningless effort and
> > it
> > > would make own work terribly outdated.
> > >
> > > Postmodernity is no longer on, since it has
> > already
> > > become an abused and stale subject of studies.
> > > It has in fact by now been already replaced by
> > > activist neo-baroque poetry.
> > >
> > > this is the new European trend guys. how to become
> > > neo-baroque?: just follow me...
> > >
> > > Thank you for ignoring systematically my mails: it
> > is
> > > a sign that my work is authentically a neo-baroque
> > > fenomenon to which people do not know how to
> > respond
> > > (joking!).
> > >
> > > ermi
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Roger Collett <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > > What rates can you negotiate for me Joseph?
> > > >
> > > > Roger
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Joseph Duemer" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 5:05 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Postmodern?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Being post-modern is more of a condition to be
> > > > negotiated than a choice to
> > > > > be made.
> > > > > ======================
> > > > > Joseph Duemer
> > > > > School of Liberal Arts, 5750
> > > > > Clarkson University
> > > > > Potsdam NY 13699
> > > > > 315.268.3967
> > > > > ======================
> > > > >
> > >
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