>From: "Martin J. Walker" <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and
> poetics <[log in to unmask]>
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>Subject: Re: The value of Lind
>Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 13:48:44 +0200
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>I can only now answer this mail (11.07) by Michael Snider, as I've been cut
>off from the internet for a week by our incompetent provider. The qasida is
>a usually tripartite verse form originally developed orally by the Bedouin
>that was more or less superseded by the ghazal; there are imitations by
>Tennyson ("Locksley Hall") and Platen, according to _The Princeton
>Encyclopedia of Poetry and Poetics_ ~ I can only find ghazals among
>Platen's
>work. It seems to me to be totally unrelated to the sonnet in either
>rhyme-scheme or structure.
John Hollander and Agha Shahid Ali have written ghazals, as strictly
defined, and many others have written ghazal-influenced poems. ASA actually
edited an anthology of American ghazals which recently came out. I remember
being none too impressed by it, for what it's worth.
The Occitanian word "trobar" means to find, as in
>French "trouver", in the sense of invent. The theory of the influence of
>Arabic love poetry on the so-called troubadours remains unproven, as far as
>I know.
As far as I know, too. However, from what I dimly recall, the influence was
not so much of qasidas and ghazals as specifically Andalusian forms such as
jarchas.
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