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Re: note

From:

david hess <[log in to unmask]>

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Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and poetics <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:16:38 +0100

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Exactly! Carlo wrote:


>Who Cares.
>


Mark Weiss wrote:
> >
> > Kent asked me to forward the following.
> >
> > >From: "KENT JOHNSON" <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Organization: Highland Community College
> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:52:48 -0500
> > >Subject: note
> > >Priority: normal
> > >X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
> > >
> > >Mark,
> > >
> > >Would you do me a favor and post this for me? I am at work, and,
> > >in any case, I fear lots of people won't read it under the
> > >circumstances if it is sent by me.
> > >
> > >thanks,
> > >Kent
> > >
> > >-----------
> > >
> > >David Hess has put on quite a show, just as I warned the list he
> > >would. Part of his show has been to create a Hotmail account
> > >under my name, presenting a number of posts as if they were
> > >mine. (I had thought the content of the posts would make quite
> > >evident to anyone reading that they were his, but I seem to have
> > >been mistaken). The only posts I have written are under the
> > >kljohnson45 address. That's said for what it's worth; some on the
> > >list seem to have made up their minds about my acts and
> > >intentions, and I see that elaborate proposals are now being made
> > >to ban me from the list.
> > >
> > >I assume David has been writing under my name with the intent of
> > >making a symbolic statement about "my project," as he puts it.
> > >Fine. But there is really no parallel between playing sophomoric
> > >games with Hotmail aliases and the seriously relevant issues
> > >concerning authorship that projects like Motokiyu's or Pessoa's
> > >raise-- exactly to the contrary, as I point out in the section of the
> > >interview I shared with the list, where I discuss the Luther Blissett
> > >and Karen Elliot phenomena. David's madly energetic
> > >performance is a minor instance of the spirit of these anarchic
> > >virtual projects. And with his "nutshell" dismissal in a recent post of
> > >the Yasusada writings, he shows himself to have some more
> > >thinking to do about the question, which is not a bad thing, of
> > >course: Its aesthetic complexity is why Doubled Flowering has
> > >been so widely discussed and debated, and why it will be into the
> > >future. David enters that debate in his own inimitable and
> > >poignantly angry way.
> > >
> > >My response to David during his jihad against me has been pretty
> > >reasonable, I think. He's brought fairly harsh personal insults into
> > >play, even calling into question my relationship to my family. I
> > >assume there was almost no response to his over-the-top uncivility
> > >because of the diversion caused by his two addresses. But I will
> > >say, if at risk of seeming like I think I'm the victim, which I don't,
> > >feeling quite at ease with how I've dealt so far with David, that I
>*do*
> > >feel a bit badly that I've gone from having put forward what I thought
> > >were some interesting ideas for discussion in the past few days
> > >(and there *was* some very interesting discussion that ensued), to
> > >being the object of such condemnation on the part of some of you.
> > >
> > >In any case, I now hand it back to David Hess. He'll no doubt go on
> > >for a while longer, and under different @Hotmails. You go, David.
> > >And as I said earlier, I'm eager to have a conversation with you. But
> > >I'm still waiting for you to drop the clown-act and adopt an approach
> > >that is conducive to real exchange. You could start by
> > >acknowledging to the list who has sent what, and then extend an
> > >apology to me (back channel is fine) for the personal slander.
> > >
> > >But I'll converse with you even if you don't do this. All you have to
> > >do is take a fresh breath and begin.
> > >
> > >Kent
> > >
> > >
> > >

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