Well, as I said, i don;t want to define things out. And then, that is
Zukofsky! Whose sense of sound, as well as sense, is more than just
impressive. Which was my point.
>
>I think that Kurt Schwitter's UR Sonata is a wonderful
>example of modern poetic device, and there is a
>indicative concrete poem by Gerhard Rhum, SILENCE,
>which like John Cage and Nathalie Sarraute, it makes
>it point.
>The ideogramm, the collage, the sure sound works that
>do not even exist on pages are legitimate poems, the
>radio poem which combines everything, and I've seen
>dancers create moving poems, actually Marcel
>Broodthaers made film poems, I have an architectural
>poem where there is no beginning middle or end. It is
>a walking poem read by the person who walks the
>passage. The ends actually slide off partially into
>the earth and get gathered up into subtexts located
>20metres away(RELAY).
>
>I reckon the discussion of what a poem might is
>interesting, and one worders have their place, I
>didn't see that as the issue in Dalwood Studios
>question. Douglas there must be a general link though
>between all the 'texts' we might call a poem, and I
>seem to think the voice phonogram is it.....let's
>explore this now....!
Sure. As a sound poet, I can get behind this, but I'd like to know exactly
what you mean by 'phonogram'. And can you say more about your architectural
poem? There is a text, it seems, something to be read while walking. That
text could be published? We could imagine the walking site? Or do we have
to be there. Well, does each one, do I, have to be there?
The UR sonata is amazing, I agree (have you heard Canadian Christian Bök's
speedy performance of it? But it is not one-word-per-line...).
As I said, I have learned not to define things out of poetry. So I was
being a bit rhetorical, & rying to suggest, in agreement with others in
this forum, that the pieces we have been getting here just aren;t very
interesting.
Your comments now, about these other possibilities, they're interesting...
Doug
Douglas Barbour
Department of English
University of Alberta
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