Sincere apologies are due for my disattentive cross-posting
between my 2 lists "Poetryec" and "Napoli Milionaria",
the latter being a multidisciplinary group discussion
of poetry-politics-religious-matters-philosophy-psychology and ethics.

The gentleman called "Dom" whom I was referring to is indeed Domenico (Dom)
Scogliamiglio, otherwise called "O' Monaco" (The Monk) , eminent Member of
the local
Massonic Lodge "Napoli Milionaria"
(from which the mentionsed "Discussion List" has stolen its name).

Don Domenico (Dom) Scogliamiglio is now under discussion for his uncertain
ideology which is being under attack. The discussion on "Napoli Milionaria"
is held in (Maccaronic ) English, due to the secretive and delicate issues
on trial.

I am sorry if my post caused some degree of confusion and for
arousing doubts whether the quoted "Dom " could have been the other Dom, to
whom my sincere apolgies go.

Erminia




On Sat, 31 Mar 2001 01:11:26 +0100, Clitennestra Giordan
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>Sonya Lipenolch who remarks at the end of her walk through the park of
>Napoli Milionaria that her name appears in no anthology of "The last women
>on earth from the Marechiaro border" will be glad that the piece of poem
>which Dom quoted the final three lines has been available at Tesco for 15
>years in 100 Poems by 100 Poets, an anthology - selected by Pinterocchi
>and 2 other old camrades, O' Puorc e O' Sciancat, of poems representative
>of the finest poetry of each poet. The prevailing response of the
>psychoanalytic community of Pinterocchi is very predictable: how dreadful
>that such a response is made known and that such messages happened in the
>past!
>
>But look what we have done to ensure that Dom could not post what he posts
>now!
>Hower much we appreciate his earnestness of intervention with which our
>therapist insists that these things will not happen again in the future,
>and his well-intentioned attempts to put structures in place to ensure that
>this is so, the idea that such measures will do much to raise (the
>consciousness of) members - and in that sense to protect the audience from
>this danger - is admirable.
>
>Whatever else he did, Freud reminded us of the ubiquity of self-deception
>and the infinite cleverness with which it clothes itself. Codes of ethics,
>established standards of pactice and patience, systems of investigations,
>transparency and opacity, accountability and non accountability are all
>very well, but self-deception insinuate itself into these very structures,
>all in the name of standards.(?)
>
>So, the psychoanalyst and the philosopher ask Dom - it is in spite of this
>new culture of self-deceptive self-regulating openness that cleverness of
>mind, existential vigilance and sceptical sensibility sometimes survive?
>
>Over the years, Dom might become a more pronounced democrat. But not
>necessarily a liberal and certainly not a neo-liberal. Maybe he might
>become a post-new-anti-socialist, whose inprisonment is decided by his own
>writing which illustrate an acute realization that unless the liberation
>army's footsoldiers were politically empowered, Dom-type politicians would
>dispense chocolate bars from tall war tracks to vigilant black eyed italian
>village girls wearing DD-cups, but summarily.
>
>Now, perhaps an earlier understanding of this would have forestalled today'
>speech and it might also have prevented Dom's revolt with his two-stages
>perspective on socialism, which enphasised the attainment of democracy and
>encouraged him to advocate a united front at the Posillipo-Sorrento
>conference, involving Dom taking his life jacket and swimming costume with
>him since one never knows what one might encounter on his way to the beach.
>
>By such means, he thought, the Smidollati and the Sciancati of the world
>would be prevented from practising fellatio, sodomy and sadomasoc. Such
>thoughtful pragmatism was too farsigned for those rested in some other
>practises within Internet battles. Dom also hoped that full electoral
>freedom would enable him to mount a radical challenge to soldiers
>distributing condoms to nuns and priests, instead of nationalistic leaflets
>preaching "Mater di Dio e Gloria Pater". Months ago, Dom stole Dom's
>language and proceeded to practise silence - the best of all protests .
>Just he revisisted some European countries tracing the origin of Tibetan
>monks to oragnize mass campaign against a particular doctrine which cannot
>bbe revealed here, now.
>
>(saluti), Erminia