>>(although you might be aware that drugs are still illegal).
that's one sweeping (generalising\authoritarian) statement.... what drugs -
what is "drugs"?? considering that alcohol, nicotin (and caffein (hit by a
50kg sack)) kill someone every second...
-- in any case a silly discussion. We can have an exchange about the
substance of substances - or we can have a series of monologues, as if we
were dictators that wanted our way, at any cost. I certainly do no want to
'defend' drugs to or for anyone, but the problems in the world that are
related to drugs call for a more interesting debate then 'science says this'
and science says that. Cars, just as drugs, are technology, and they are
occassionally used to kill people, with or without intention; and they
pollute, so tells me science - now what can i do with that information??
what is there for me learn from that? that cars are bad - that cars are cool
or that cars are dangerous???
'all things have two handles, beware of the wrong one' (RW Emerson) -
beware, obviously, to me at least, excludes ignorance and turning my back.
Either i go look for myself; or i rest my case. I never immediately absorbed
any information, especially if it came from the thousand-headed-monster they
call representative democracy....
the school i went to made me paranoid - and i did not even do drugs - should
that school be closed?
>> ....(World Illegal Drugs Trade equal worth $ 3250bn.)
(way out of known proportions: where the H do you get this figure from??)
... and it is going to stay illegal and on the increase as long as we talk
like this to each other. This is exactly what is required for such laws to
remain intact. Corruption of politicians and legislatures is not enough.
Corruption of minds of the masses is required as well..............
ooohhh-hoooohh drugs are so bad and dangerous - we better keep them illegal
for the safety of our children - nevermind that it is the CIA Drugs Inc.
that trades, shifts and distributes them in order to stay liquid and
flexible to annihilate, create vacuums and fill those vacuums in order to
advance the great world order of the puritan descendants...
m
----- Original Message -----
From: "Erminia" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: one more with feeling - Life is a drug....(Safety or not
safety?)
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 16:12:04 -0000, mindfight <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
>Erminia's make
>me want to take a drug, simply in opposition. The Church and the
>Marxist-Leninist are some of the most busy indoctrinators i have heard of
in
>my short life; and they represent, to me as a child of the 70s & 80s, the
>same authoritarian conservative and damaging oppressive and suppressive
>regimes as do the drug barons.
The "moral" approach to drug abuse is not at issue here and not even the
legal one (although you might be aware that drugs are still illegal). What
we are talking about is the safety side of it. Now you may think that
because some of you have experimented somehow with drugs that this is a
futile argument. However, is your anecdotal evidence to have little (if
any) value (I mean scientifically).
See what the professionals tell us about the effects of drug abuse, and
then think twice before promoting the drug culture.
Among the side effects of MDMA, for example, we have:
Malignant hyperthermia, seizures, paranoia, chest pain, arrhythmias,
hypertensive crisis, rhabdomyolysis, syncope, sexual dysfunction, etc.
These are not fairy tales, but the result of observation of real cases.
People have died or have been seriously ill, why? To be cool or just to be
rebels for the sake of it. So, we are still in the second generation of\
Romantics( say, the end of the Ninety Century, to be more depressively
precise!). In fact, these kind of rebels celebrate but the self-destructive
nature of drug abuse against the establishment: not to talk of the fact
that the drug industry is the third economical world power....(World
Illegal Drugs Trade equal worth $ 3250bn.) and the UK drugs trade 1.2% of
GDP.So, stop being children you children of the Eighties (brothers of mine,
then, since I was a child in the Eighties too!)..
erminia
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