Forwarded by steve duffy <[log in to unmask]>
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From: "kent johnson" <[log in to unmask]>
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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 15:38:18 -0500
Subject: Amazing slanders
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[Kindly forwarded by Steve Duffy, from Kent]
I have jsut read Candice Ward's post with the heading "KJ unsubscribed."
The situation is getting more and more disturbing. Let me see if I can calm
my anger to say a few words in response to the incredible and revolting
innuendo of her last message:
What is this tripe about "information received" about a "fellow member of
the community being victimized"? It seems clear that Candice intends this to
mean that I, somehow, was vicitmizing a member of Poetryetc.(!) I would
demand, if Candice has any backchannel messages from me to that "person",
that she release them immediately to the list. (Please Candice, did you hear
that? I am giving you permission TO RELEASE TO POETRYETC ANY MESSAGES FROM
ME, FRONT CHANNEL OR BACK, TO YOU, ALISON, OR *ANY OTHER PERSON*, THAT YOU
DEEM REPRESENTATIVE AND EVIDENTIARY OF THE ACCUSATION YOU HAVE MADE. Do not
come back with the "confidentiality" bullshit. You have stooped very low
now, slandering my person via the most despicable innuendo, and you need to
back it up now. As Steve Duffy said, cut this crap about everyone having to
trust what you say.
Secondly, when you say "We had hoped that putting Kent's posts on review
status to assure that he wouldn't compromise the list vis a vis Jiscmail, as
he seemed determined to do, would make it unnecessary to remove him, but it
didn't work and the threat to the list as a whole and to individual listees
became my overrriding concern."
What are talking aobut, please? Are you now putting forth the outright lie
that I tried to forward the posts in question? What else could you mean that
the 'surveillance' you put me under "didn't work"? And this talk about a
"threat to individual listees" is outright melodrama, smacking of the most
McCarthyite alarmism.
And when you say that I "flooded your backchannels with abusive email",
again, I challenge you, via my stated permission here, to share with the
list any of those e-mails, which were part of an agitated exchange on the
part of the THREE of us. Let the list judge if any of my BACK- CHANNEL
e-mails constituted a reason to *remove me from the list*. Or is this the
tack your argument is going to take now-- that I was removed because I
wasn't "polite" backchannel to you and Alison after the measures you took
against me, and so that is why "things didn't work" and so you had no choice
but to kick me off.
Candice's last e-mail is frankly libelous, through and through. It is an
irresponsible escalation of the situation, and I demand an explanation from
her as per my requests above.
If she cannot satisfactorily back up these slanders, I respectfully suggest
that she be asked to resign as moderator of Poetryetc.
Kent
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