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Subject:

Do Songs Succeed as Poetry? (John Leland NYTimes)

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This from a professor at UCSC to 'another list' this morning....
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                The New York Times
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>          http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/08/magazine/08LYRICS.html
>
>   July 8, 2001
>
>
> IT'S ONLY RHYMING QUATRAINS, BUT I LIKE IT:
> DO SONGS SUCCEED AS POETRY?
>
> By JOHN LELAND
>
>
>  In the last days of the Beatles, as things were starting to come apart,
>  the band formed a record label called Zapple. The idea -- or lark,
>  really -- was to record experimental music and spoken word, starting with
>  the poets who had become the band's friends. The orbits of rock and
>  poetry were pushing at each other: musicians like Bob Dylan or Joni
>  Mitchell were starting to claim the mantle of poets, and the Beats were
>  hanging with rock stars, enjoying a small piece of the reflected
>  adulation. Why not merge the two in one grand goof? It got off to a
>  promising start. Allen Ginsberg, Lawrence Ferlinghetti, Richard Brautigan
>  and Charles Olson put themselves on tape, and Michael McClure, the West
>  Coast poet, volunteered to play his autoharp -- a gift from Bob Dylan --
>  behind the verses of a Hell's Angel named Freewheelin' Frank. But Zapple
>  folded after just two albums, and within a year, the Beatles disbanded.
>
>  Paul McCartney, who had been the push behind Zapple, finally invoked his
>  own poetic license earlier this year with the publication of "Blackbird
>  Singing: Poems and Lyrics 1965-1989." Always considered less writerly
>  than John Lennon, McCartney joins a procession of pop stars who have
>  loosed their song lyrics on the poetry sections of bookstores in recent
>  years. Bob Dylan, Joni Mitchell, Leonard Cohen, Lou Reed, Patti Smith,
>  Suzanne Vega and Robert Hunter of the Grateful Dead have all published
>  big collections of their song lyrics and other writings. A volume of
>  Richard Hell's work is due out in the fall. Henry Rollins, Jewel and
>  Tupac Shakur have published volumes of their poetry.
>
>  What does it mean for a select group of pop songwriters, in the wane of
>  their careers, to be repositioned as poets? Norman Mailer once snorted
>  that "if Dylan's a poet, I'm a basketball player." The books are a
>  serious publishing endeavor but an odd one, seeking not an audience or
>  even a lasting imprint -- the musicians already have that -- but a claim
>  to legitimacy. They revive the old question of how rock or rap lyrics,
>  removed from the roar and theater of the music, fare as poetry. On the
>  cold black and white of the page, do they still sing?
>
>  The worst of the fighting has long been settled. Poetry is thriving -- on
>  the Internet, in slams and public readings -- but for most of us, song
>  lyrics now do the work of modern verse: they organize the truths that
>  rattle around in our skulls. As universities trim their studies of
>  Coleridge or Eliot, English majors read Dylan or Tupac for credit. The
>  lyrics and their supporters have won, if only for outlasting their
>  critics. Of course the lyrics are poetry. No populist definition could
>  exclude the lyrics of rock songs, any more than it could exclude the
>  songs of Sappho or the "hey nonny nonny" nonsense of Shakespeare; any
>  high-culture guardians who would exclude rock have lost the authority to
>  do so. The books of lyrics are the spoils of victory -- not an aspirant's
>  claim but a victory lap.
>
>  But the value of this victory is questionable. After living so long under
>  these songs' caterwauling sway, I recently spent a month inside the
>  ruminative pages of the printed lyrics, without the alimentary boost of
>  the music. It is a quiet neighborhood, filled with nice finds: the mature
>  lyricism of later Joni Mitchell songs, the economy McCartney hewed to in
>  the Beatles. Yet these seem like dry satisfactions. There are some fine
>  verses in these books, but the power and poetry forged by McCartney,
>  Mitchell and the rest lie in a far more complicated and scurrilous set of
>  connections.
>
>  On a brilliant afternoon in the spring, Bob Holman, a poet and believer,
>  piled the books of lyrics on the desk of his TriBeCa loft. An original
>  member of the raucous Nuyorican Poets Cafe on the Lower East Side, he has
>  done more than anyone to restore the rattle and dissonance to poetry, the
>  sweaty ambition of performance and rant. He wears rectangular tortoise-
>  shell glasses and has a shock of hair cresting from the top of his head,
>  as if it's pulling him up from above. He jabbed a finger happily at a
>  bridge in McCartney's "When I'm 64":
>
>
> You'll be older too,
> And if you say the word -
> I could stay with you.
>
>
>  It was a formal element, a haiku -- well, almost -- illustrating what
>  Holman thought was wrong with drawing a line between poems and songs,
>  isolating poetry from the stream of popular culture. "We make these
>  distinctions so we have something to talk about other than the poems
>  themselves," he said. He started piling up a second round of poetry
>  books -- pamphlets called chapbooks that are sold at slams. "These people
>  are writing great rock 'n' roll poetry," he said, spitting the "hair-
>  flinging anarchy" of rock 'n' roll. He meant this as a compliment, but it
>  was also a recognition of how poetry and pop music have shifted their
>  public roles in the last few decades: how poets are now happy to seek
>  legitimacy in the vulgar swagger of rockers rather than the other way
>  around. The alternative is the quiet cloister of the academy.
>
>  Song lyrics have no obligation to work as poetry. Though poetry began in
>  song (lyric poems, for example, were set to the lyre), by now, the two
>  serve different needs. To oversimplify, poems shape the public
>  language -- words, meter, what have you -- to reveal interior truths.
>  Songs, by contrast, have to unite audiences in collective truths. Great
>  lyrics, even fancy ones, do not necessarily aspire to poetry. For
>  example, John Lennon's song "Give Peace a Chance" scans neatly:
>
>
> Ev'rybody's talking about
> Bagism, Shagism, Dragism, Madism,
> Ragism, Tagism
> This-ism, that-ism, is-m, is-m, is-m.
> All we are saying is give peace a chance
>
>
>  But the song's yearnings and remedies are all exterior, and its
>  persuasion lies in melody and timbre; it succeeds as song, not as verse.
>  This is not a lesser victory, just a different one. As Yeats wrote, "We
>  make out of the quarrel with others, rhetoric, but of the quarrel with
>  ourselves, poetry."
>
>  Yet nothing prevents songs from taking on this other, interior quarrel.
>  If poetry is, as Leonard Cohen contends, a verdict and not an intention,
>  rock has long extended itself as an opportunity, a soapbox for poets and
>  pseuds. Lou Reed studied with Delmore Schwartz.
>
>  Cohen and Patti Smith were published poets well before they recorded
>  songs. Richard Hell, then Richard Meyers, ran away from home at age 17 to
>  come to New York and be a poet -- a romantic journey, tied as much to
>  vices as verses. "It's interesting how you put that, 'The romance of
>  poetry,' taking for granted that it's about a whole sexy way of life,"
>  Hell said in a recent e-mail exchange. As a teenager, he idolized Dylan
>  Thomas; he slid from poetry to what became punk rock, gaining and losing
>  something along the way. "I thought I'd have fun bringing things I'd
>  learned reading and writing poems into music lyrics, but I ended up
>  mostly writing just way more spicy versions of the classic lyric styles."
>
>  In the quiet of print, rock lyrics are often less than meets the ear.
>  Rock has always found meaning in nonsense, whether the exuberant whoop of
>  Little Richard's "wop bop a loo bop," or the portentous non sequiturs of
>  the alternative band Pavement:
>
>
> Life is a forklift.
> Now my mouth is a forklift,
> This I ask: that you serve as a forklift too.
>
>
>  These puzzlements are diffusely utopian: they promise the existence of
>  another world in which life can be anything and all confusions melt away.
>  Salman Rushdie, in his novel "The Ground Beneath Her Feet," writes of
>  this vision: "Song shows us a world that is worthy of our yearning, it
>  shows us our selves as they might be, if we were worthy of the world."
>
>  The embrace of nonsense and non sequiturs is an inheritance from rural
>  folk music and the blues, which use absurdism to face a capriciously hard
>  world. Dylan adapted this trope for a rock 'n' roll world grappling with
>  Vietnam and the destruction of the civil rights heroes. Applying old
>  truths to a fiercely modern form, he conjured anachronistic landscapes of
>  hard rain and darkness at the break of noon, biblical justice and
>  sorrows. Songs like "Desolation Row" poked at truths using language that
>  was rambling, funny and resolutely poetic, whether sung or sprawled
>  across the pages of Dylan's "Lyrics, 1962-1985":
>
>
> They're selling postcards of the hanging
> They're painting the passports brown
> The beauty parlor is filled with sailors
> The circus is in town
> Here comes the blind commissioner
> They've got him in a trance
> One hand is tied to the tightrope walker
> The other is in his pants
>
>
>  This was a literary play, evoking one vision of desolation to critique or
>  exorcise another. You didn't have to follow all his allusions; Dylan's
>  power lay in creating mystery, not resolving it. Audiences that once
>  screamed through Beatles shows hung rapt on his words. And after Dylan,
>  it is fair to say, the deluge.
>
>  But the import of rock songs often lies in the gaps between the words,
>  inviting the guesswork and reflection and temporary epiphany that are the
>  richest part of listening. The real lyrics to "Louie, Louie," for
>  example, could never signify like the rumor and innuendo. And unlike the
>  words of Cole Porter or Stephen Sondheim or the other pop or cabaret
>  writers compiled in the recent book "Reading Lyrics," which deliver the
>  same message whether sung or read, the rock songs need the blur of the
>  music to fill in the meaning. Even vacant rock songs -- say, "Pretty
>  Vacant" by the Sex Pistols -- promise not a vacuity of meaning but a
>  surfeit. It has been a tenet of the rock era that those three-minute
>  songs, pored over by their adherents, carry deeper truths than the
>  institutions around them. This may be a vanity, but it has been a
>  powerful one. The words are just the way in. As Pete Townsend of the Who
>  once said, discussing MTV, "You can speak a language there where nothing
>  you say needs to make sense, but everyone understands you anyway."
>
>  The persistence of this shared meaning points to one of the poetic limits
>  of song lyrics. They communicate collectively; they preach to the in
>  crowd. The words to songs, however idiosyncratic, do not direct us to
>  recognize an intelligence independent from and outside our own. Instead,
>  they give novel shape to our points of agreement, what Richard Hell
>  called "the classic lyric styles." Dylan's "Ballad of a Thin Man," for
>  example, about the hopelessly square Mr. Jones, would be lost on its
>  central character. Decades later, when Dylan began writing as a
>  born-again Christian, hectoring his audience -- which is to say, moving
>  away from any points of agreement -- he ceased to communicate as a
>  songwriter. Poetry is not obliged to these communal ties.
>
>  Rock lyrics are by nature overheated and fragmented; they generate more
>  good lines than coherent works. Some of the most compelling believe in
>  revelation or transcendence but stop short of trying to show it (this is
>  perhaps low art's privilege: to defer to a higher art for the details).
>  Lou Reed's "Some Kinda Love," for example, hints at revelation through
>  sexual transgression, walking only as far as the edge without looking
>  over:
>
>
> Put jelly on your shoulder
> Let's do what you fear most
> That from which you recoil
> But still makes your eyes moist
>
>
>  The lyrics, the jelly, get you halfway there. The music -- Reed's flinty
>  voice, the erotic curl of the guitar notes -- suggests enough of the
>  rest.
>
>  Many of these evocative fragments do not seem so pretty on the page. As
>  poems, even good song lyrics often feel beholden to easy rhymes or
>  predictable formulas. Taken out of context, these songwriting conventions
>  often feel exposed and mannered. Music is a soft lyric's best friend, and
>  a lot of the verses here can use the companionship. But there are also
>  some revelations on the pages. Leonard Cohen, who published his first
>  book of poetry a decade before his first album, reads as darkly funny on
>  the page, a quiet smolder in a neatly tailored suit. In a typically
>  corrosive twist on the cliche of the tormented artist, he writes,
>
>
> I said to Hank Williams, "How lonely does it get?"
> Hank Williams hasn't answered yet
> but I hear him coughing all night long
> a hundred floors above me in the tower of song.
>
>
>  The biggest surprises are McCartney's. John Lennon's 1964 book "In His
>  Own Write" bills its author as "The Writing Beatle!" "Blackbird Singing"
>  is McCartney's revenge. Instead of mooning about poetic stuff like misty
>  weather and limpid eyes or reaching for the grand statements favored by
>  Lennon, McCartney at his best is all business, compact and plain-spoken.
>  His characters have names, like Lovely Rita or Father Mackenzie, and
>  perform bold, funny actions: they came in through the bathroom window or,
>  like Joan in "Maxwell's Silver Hammer," they got "quizzical, studied
>  pataphysical/Science in the home," a reference to the Dadaist playwright
>  Alfred Jarry's science of imaginary solutions. His "Eleanor Rigby," which
>  I find maudlin as a song, shows its hardness on the page, as flawless a
>  poem as rock has produced:
>
>
> Father Mackenzie,
> Wiping the dirt from his hands as he walks from the grave.
> No one was saved.
>
>
>  McCartney's lyrics are taut and polished; it's nice to have the leisure
>  to crack them.
>
>  Even on the page, the lyrics do not escape the accidents and textures of
>  performance. Robert Pinsky, the former poet laureate, has long argued for
>  the centrality of voice in poetry, whether written or sung. "Poetry, for
>  me, is written with the poet's voice and intended for the reader's
>  voice," he said. "The point for me is not 'the page.' Rather, the test is
>  how beautiful or exciting the language sounds when it is spoken. Great
>  poetry sounds great in any interested reader's voice." Fans constantly
>  give their voice to the lyrics lodged in their heads; the books of lyrics
>  are formal invitations to let loose -- a primal karaoke. Pinsky welcomes
>  the books with the competitive warmth of a poet at a slam. "The cheese
>  department," he said, "should offer many things between Velveeta and an
>  exquisite goat cheese."
>
>  So far, publishers seem less eager to enshrine the lyrics of hip-hop,
>  which on record often move too quickly to be counted. Except among the
>  truly committed, there is not much place in the culture now for all-night
>  bullcrit sessions to peel the layers of meaning and nonsense in the
>  lyrics of the Notorious B.I.G. or Eminem. Yet the era's most beguiling,
>  word-drunk songwriting has come from writers like Tupac Shakur, who was
>  killed in 1996. Lauryn Hill, an Ivy Leaguer from New Jersey, laced her
>  rap with a running commentary on how to read her:
>
>
> I treat this like my thesis
> Well-written topic
> Broken down into pieces
> I introduce then produce
> Words so profuse
> It's abuse how I juice up this beat
> Like I'm deuce
>
>
>  Like the lyricists of the 1960's, hip-hoppers write against a backdrop of
>  social crisis, often exaggerating it with mordant humor. In the early
>  days of N.W.A., Ice Cube introduced himself,
>
>
> I'm expressing with my full capabilities,
> And now I'm living in correctional facilities
>
>
>  This is another wry take on the tortured artist as outlaw, isolated not
>  in Leonard Cohen's tower of song but in Los Angeles's county blues.
>  Rappers have often defended the excessive violence, sexuality,
>  materialism and psychopathology in some lyrics as a kind of journalism,
>  unpretty dispatches from the front. But with their vivid sensationalism
>  and the creative chaos of their language, they function much better as
>  poetry than journalism. The words can be redundant or contradictory -- or
>  throwaway, like the formulas Homer used to make his lines scan. The
>  Notorious B.I.G. raps,
>
>
> My life is played out like a Jherri Curl,
> I'm ready to die
>
>
>  How to reconcile the radically divergent tones of the two lines, the
>  dirty-dozens humor of the first, the bleak fatalism of the second? Except
>  maybe to recognize both as survival postures and B.I.G. as running
>  through the various cultural currents flooding his life. The poetry lies
>  in the sum of the two lines, not in their reduction.
>
>  If rock or rap lyrics have usurped the role of poetry, it's not very
>  likely that many know enough to miss it. A few years ago, an English
>  professor named David Pichaske asked several groups of people to identify
>  a poem or line from the works of 25 recent Pulitzer Prize-winning poets.
>  Then he asked again, using 25 popular songwriters. The results were
>  exactly as you would expect. The books of lyrics function as souvenirs of
>  this ascendancy.
>
>  The collected writings of, say, Patti Smith may not leap off the shelf,
>  but they mark out her place in our public and private lives. For fans
>  squinting toward middle age with their copies of her album "Horses," the
>  existence of such a book can mean that we haven't outgrown her triumphal
>  squall, even if we're no longer braving the sodden toilets of CBGB to get
>  close to it. If you wanted to put a value on this glow, you might
>  consider Jewel's publishing advance for "A Night Without Armor," reported
>  to be more than $1 million, compared with the usual $10,000 to $20,000
>  for books by name poets. The book's introduction, which cites Jewel's
>  influences, misspells Bukowski.
>
>  Rock music has long settled into genteel, adult ambitions. But if the
>  books of song lyrics are intended to breach the canon, they are too late;
>  that battle is over. Writers like Dylan, McCartney, Lennon, Mitchell,
>  Tupac and the rest triumphed by embedding their poetic intelligence in
>  the rhythm and noise and commerce that make up our modern lives. These
>  books distill one part of that intelligence, but they are, as Pete Seeger
>  once described the printed lyrics of folk songs, like a photograph of a
>  bird in flight. They capture the verbs and nouns, but not the power that
>  upended the rules of gravity that existed before.
>
>  ----------
>  John Leland is a reporter for the Style department of The New York Times.
>
>
>          http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/08/magazine/08LYRICS.html
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>                  Copyright 2001 The New York Times Company
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>
>
> *******
>
>

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