presumable Erminia wanted to provoke with that posting.... but in case
anyone is interested in balanced views:
see for instance: http://leda.lycaeum.org/quickindex.shtml for more info...

here's my two cents worth of comments.....

LSD cause various undesired states of altered consciousness to appear
probably mainly due to such ignorant and irresponsible 'information'
(propaganda) as presented below. That is, of course, not to say that LSD
cannot, and maybe often will, trigger tendencies harboured within the
psyche, that would eventually surface anyhow. LSD is rarely found on the
street because it is illegal, although mixtures of amphetamines and other
'good stuff' is often sold as LSD. (See Stanislav Groff 'LSD Psychotherapy'
for what seems to be one of the only serious engagements with the LSD
issue - and remember Leary's mantra: set & setting)

Amphetamines are slightly boring without getting kicked off by other
substances. Hallucinations I have never experienced with that drug, but A is
too boring and -I agree- too damaging for me to go back and attempt again.
Of the many applications of amphetamines available the most boring are in
particular those in western chemists (while the Oriental chemists still
stock the more euphoric ones) and the last and least interesting application
of A is what is sold on the streets. Occasionally, if you are in the know
(read: know someone from Hell's Angels) you can get it uncut straight from
the lab. It smells VERY strongly and should be kept in the fridge at least,
best in freezer)

Barbiturates are mostly used by western doctors and patients and upper-class
bored housewifes, who otherwise cannot deal with their wanking
never-quite-reaching-the-top business professional husbands - or what?

Narcotics - I though it was all narcotics in that piece - generally drugs
are narcotics, or?? Anyway, opium is a very nice substance that requires too
much physical participation during the trip for most to want to do it again
immediately. Personally I get interestingly red and black visions when i
close my eyes during trip. Even the vomitting part is enjoyable, which is,
to some, a mystery. It has been 3-4 years now - and writing this make want
another.......;)))

Cocaine I have only experienced once. Induces exaltation that can be
difficult to stay 'on top of' (get it?). However, it is nowadays a
mainstream intoxicant in cosmopolitan settings. The new rich IT and
advertising folks are hitting it off with C. 'Thursday is cocaine day' - 90%
of all 20£ notes in London contain traces of C etc.. The rich get better
quality, as with all drugs, and the poor get the stuff from the lab broom.
'Everybody knows'

Marijuana, my drug of choice, only contested by red wine. i have nothing
much to add:
"It really puzzles me to see Marijuana connected with Narcotics - Dope and
all that crap.it's a thousand times better than whiskey - it's an
Assistant - a friend." - Louis Armstrong
(taken from Harvard MD Lester Grinspoon's http://www.marijuana-uses.com )

Glue and gas sniffing - well, what is there to say other than 'the epitome
of the poor ignorant fool's drug'.

Heroin - hmmmm... never gone down that road, and will never...appears to be
too strong. Discussed it with some drug explorers or psychonauts that seem
to agree that it is very difficult to get rid of. Even if you have not done
it for a year or more, it can grab you out of the blue if you get anywhere
near a source.. approch with great care, I'd say..

!!Happy New Year!!

martin



----- Original Message -----
From: "Erminia Passannanti" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: one more with feeling


> The Doctor is IN. (10.00am)The following information are taken from John
> Murtagh's "General practise".
>
> Drug abusers have the following permanent damages:
>
> LSD: severe hallucinations suicidal tendencies caused by unpredictable
> selfdamaging behaviours chronic exposure causes brain damages .
Chromosomal
> breakdown.
>
>
> Amphetamines: High risk of death for overdose, hallucinations, temporary
> psychosis.
>
> Barbiturates: Death for overdose or as a result of withdrawal, addiction,
> convulvions, severe liver damage.
>
> Narcotics (opiates and heroin): Death for uncontrolled usage, mental
> deterioration, destruction of brain and liver, hepatitis, embolisms.
>
> Cocaine: Death for overdose, heart attacks (sudden death caused by
> unrecoverable arrhythmias, seizures, mental disorder, severe and sometimes
> unrecoverable respiratory damage.
>
> Marjuana: Tendence towards stronger narcotics, cerebral lesions.
>
> Glue sniffing: lung/brain/liver permanent damage. Death through
suffucation
> or choking.
>
> ---------------
> pLEASE, TAKE A LOOK AT THESE EFFECTS:
>
>
> HEROIN AND NARCOTIC ABUSE : Withdrawal effects:
> anxiety and panic
> irritability
> chill and shivering
> loss of appetite
> nausea and vomiting
> lacrimation/insomnia
> tiredness
> muscle cramps and aches
> abdominal colics
> diarrhoea
>
> Complications:
>
> Medical: respiratory depression which may include fatal cardio-pulmonary
> collapse.
> Thrombosis, abscesses, ulceration of the skin caused by injection.
> Distal septic complications such as septicaemia, infective endocarditis,
> lung abscess, osteomyelitis, ophthalmitis.
> Viral infections: hepatitis B, C, HIV infection.
> Neurological complications: transverse myelitis, nerve trauma.
>
> (Social effects: alienation from family, loss of employment, criminal
> activity, such as theft, burglary, prostitution, drug trafficking).
>
>