I love the notion of 'subtle neurolinguistic programming'.
Where do you get it?
Gimme Gimme!
Best
Dave
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From: "Mark Weiss" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: we/self and suicide
> That's the beauty of it. As with the previous study, one would never have
> to talk to the subjects. One wouldn't even need to name them. And one
> wouldn't need to quote them. No consent necessary, just a library card and
> a random list of poets.
>
> Let's say that the study confirms the previous one. The next step would be
> to devise an experimental protocol to determine whether the use of certain
> pronouns was symptom or cause. Is it possible that first person singular
is
> actually toxic?
>
> And of course one would want to know if a tendency to read certain
pronouns
> was predictive or causative of suicide. Do Sylvia Plath fans do themselves
> in more often than Gertrude Stein fans? So many variables...
>
> The ultimate goal, presumably, is to devise entirely literary treatment
> methods that wouldn't require ever meeting with the poets. They could be
> cured without their knowledge and even, Candice, their consent, perhaps by
> reviews containing subtle neurolinguistic programing.
>
> Mark
>
>
> At 02:22 AM 8/3/2001 -0400, you wrote:
> >How would you word the consent form for these subjects, just out of
> >curiosity?
> >
> >Candice
> >
> >on 8/3/01 2:05 AM, Mark Weiss at [log in to unmask] wrote:
> >
> >> I've been thinking on it for two days, and I've finally come up with
the
> >> next research project for the authors of the pronoun study. Reading the
> >> past is rather less useful than reading the future. Perhaps they could
read
> >> the complete works of say 2000 living poets, balanced for social class
and
> >> aesthetic principles, and predict which would commit suicide, and when.
> >> Check back in 10 years for the results.
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >> At 01:04 AM 8/3/2001 -0400, Candice Ward wrote:
> >>> on 8/1/01 7:26 AM, Matthew Francis at
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> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I can't get stop writing in the second person - don't like to think
what
> >> this
> >>>> says about my state of mind. My second persons tend to be a cross
between
> >>>> 'you' the reader and the impersonal 'you' meaning 'one'. I hate the
> fashion
> >>>> for writing to a *specific* second person and telling them things
they
> know
> >>>> already. You know the kind of thing:
> >>>>
> >>>> Grandmother, you were only 18
> >>>> when you married.
> >>>> Once you told me
> >>>> how you loved making jam
> >>>> better than making love...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> A Brief Encomium to Matthew Francis in the Second Person
> >>>
> >>> You
> >>> First
> >
>
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