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Subject:

Re: Violence, terrorism, and ee, Re: U of Washington firebombing

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Steven Bissell <[log in to unmask]>

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Discussion forum for environmental ethics.

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Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:59:03 -0600

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I *think* it might be that if you relegate all environmental issues to the
same base, you can more easily ignore them altogether. It would seem that
this is what Dubyah is doing in the US now. He and his advisors seem to
think that all environmental issues are essentially facile. His *big*
environmental push is to make the national parks more user friendly. This
shows a very fundamental misunderstanding of such issues as global warming,
water quality, etc. I don't know who is the head of CEQ these days, I
suppose I should check, but I don't so much blame Dubyah as I do his
advisors. A couple of years ago an consultant to the Republican Party
advised candidates that in order to show their environmental credentials,
they should hold press conferences in zoos and aquariums (I'm not joking
about this!). At least every quarter I get one student who either wants to
attack all environmental issues as misguided, regardless of the policy
and/or science. Of course I also get at least one student, usually more, who
want to believe that all environmental issues are the result of rich white
males conspiring to subjugate humanity. Just goes to show.
Steven

-----Original Message-----
From: Discussion forum for environmental ethics.
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 10:43 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Violence, terrorism, and ee, Re: U of Washington
firebombing


--- Steven Bissell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> My pique was prompted by an episode of "West Wing" last year where
> Martin
> Sheen (as the US President) chastised a group of environmental
> organizations
> for not denouncing the ELF actions. I made me think that most people in
> Sierra Club, Audubon, Wildlife Federation, i.e. the "main stream"
> environmental organizations do not associate themselves with ELF anymore
> than the VFW associates itself with Timothy McVeigh. I don't know how or
> why
> this homogenization of environmental groups has occurred, but it seems
> to be
> there. I think that if anyone were to follow this list alone for a few

I don't know why it is there either.  Intellectual laziness?  I have
discussed this at another site with an Objectivist and it is his position
that all environmentalists share essentially and anti-man philosophy.  I
told him I thought that was bunk and at the least he needs to demonstrate
that, but that hasn't slowed him down too much.



> weeks
> they would realize that "environmentalists" vary from
> foaming-at-the-mouth
> timber beasts in New Zealand (just a joke Chris) to new-age tree huggers
> in
> California. I have no idea why we are all put in the same drawer and

I never hug trees Steven.  Climb them, sit under them for shade, or even
just watch the wind blow throught he leaves yes, but hugging...no.  :-)


[snip]

Steve


=====
"In a nutshell, he [Steve] is 100% unadulterated evil. I do not believe in a
'Satan', but this man is as close to 'the real McCoy' as they come."
--Jamey Lee West

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