Steve wrote:
> This reminds me of when Greenpeace got into bed with Ben & Jerry's.  I
> find their claims are lessened by their inability to criticize Ben &
> Jerry's for making their ice cream when it has been shown that at least on
> one instance it contained rather high levels of dioxin.

In one instance....so how can you estimate that 200 cancers will be caused
by eating Tom and Jerry ice cream cones?

Tom and Jerry don't put dioxins into their ice cream. Only ice cream from
Eastern North America contains any appreciable dioxins. The fact is that Ben
& Jerry do not raise cows. They buy milk and ice cream ingredients and do
not raise cows, nor do they use herbicides, pulp trees using chlorine, not
add chlorine in water treatment process, nor do Tom and Jerry incinerate
garbage.

If a farmer is using phenoxy herbicides, then it is the farmer that is
putting dioxins into his cows which eat the grass, not Tom and Jerry. If the
home owner is using Killex on his or her lawn, then it is the home owner
that is putting dioxin into the cows water as it is flushed off the lawn
during spring rain. If the town that desires a toxic incinerator for
economic reasons incinerates garbage, or if there is a fire in an industrial
plant, then it is the town that puts the dioxin in the milk via
precipitation. If it is a pulp mill that is still using chlorine to bleach
pulp, then it is the pulp mill that is putting the dioxin into the ice
cream.

Well now did Tom & Jerry knowingly put any dioxin into their ice cream which
also contains cane sugar? Cane sugar, beet sugar also may have dioxin since
the dioxins are found in phenoxy herbicides, and the dioxin molecules
conjugate with the sugar molecules, the starch molecules in sugar. This is
why grass species are immune to the phenoxy herbicides used in Agent Orange
(2,4-D & 2, 4, 5-T).  The greatest single source of 2, 4-dichlorophenol in
the human diet is via the starch molecules in the wheat grain in our bread.
There is not a single person eating chemically grown wheat that does not
excrete some 2,4-dichlorophenol in their urine, nor trace amounts of
dioxins. The interesting thing is that 2,4-D cannot be used on seed crops.
The reason is that the dioxins and other contaminants, possible the
2,4-dichlorophenol, cause so much chromosome damage in the seed that it
becomes effectively sterile. So no phenoxy herbicides can be used in the
growing of seed crops.

During my research I found the highest single environmental concentration
for 2, 4-D in one city during the spring. This high level was associated
with the use of lawn care products in the spring to kill weeds. The city was
located where wheat is also grown. So the drift from the sprayers
contributed to the concentration in the local atmosphere of the city.

So there are many rational people who are directly putting into the
environment every single day some dioxins. Tom and Jerry do not put dioxins
into their ice cream. This would be forbidden by law.

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> The levels were so high that there would be an estimated 200 more cancers
> among lifetime consumers of Ben & Jerry's.

I would like to have the reference to this statement?
>
> Particularly troubling is the fact that Ben & Jerry's is consumed by a
> large number of children.  Children who might be more susceptible to the
> dangers of dioxin.

It is interesting where the dioxins in ice cream come from. The dioxins come
from several sources.

1.    Phenoxy herbicides such as common killex used on lawns 2, 4-D,

2.    pulp mill effluent, and

3.    in some cases the greatest amount of dioxin in cow's milk comes from
the incineration of garbage which contains large amounts of chlorinated
plastics.

Milk obtained from cows in Eastern North America has more dioxin
contamination than does cows milk from the Pacific North West.





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> > all these little ad homimen arguements that Jim (and Steve Verdon) is
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> You were saying David?
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> Steve
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