From: "Caspar Bowden" <[log in to unmask]> To: CSL
Subject: FW: Slashdot | Google Expands Usenet Archive to 20 Years
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 23:47:57 -0000
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:12:54 -0800
Subject: Re: Slashdot | Google Expands Usenet Archive to 20 Years
From: Tim May <[log in to unmask]>
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On Tuesday, December 11, 2001, at 08:07 AM, Trei, Peter wrote:
> What expanded capability for ego-surfing!
> What expanded ability for better-forgotten posts to rise
> from the dead!
>
> Seriously, this is neat. My earliest listed posting is from
> 28 November '82. The first mention of the cypherpunks list
> appears to be a post from Eric Hughes on 25 September '92,
> which refers to the list as 'recently formed'.
Yes, it's great to see Google finally get around to doing what DejaNews
said would be done.
Interestingly, I see a January 1992 use of the term "cypherpunks":
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=+%22cypherpunks%22&hl=en&as_drrb=b&as_mind
=17&as_minm=5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=11&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=1992&rnum=9&selm=19
92Jan11.232019.3543%40highlite.uucp
This predates Jude Milhon's naming of our list by about 9 months. And
the earlier reference was not in the same context. Still, interesting.
A search on "cypherpunk" gives a history of the term and the early
meetings at the Hackers Conference, the early CP meetings, etc.:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=cypherpunk&hl=en&as_drrb=b&as_mind=17&as_m
inm=
5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=11&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=1992&rnum=1&selm=1992Nov16.1544
38.
14092%40kumr.lns.com
The first mention of "cryptoanarchy" (the spelling I used then) is in a
9 January 1991 post from John Gilmore, citing my item on cryptoanarchy
at the 1990 Hackers Conference:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=cryptoanarchy&hl=en&as_drrb=b&as_mind=17&
as_minm=5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=11&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=1992&rnum=1&selm=14631%
40hoptoad.
uucp
"
Cryptology, Computer Networks, and Big Brother
Tim May
slide presentation
Views privacy and freedom from the point of view of "cryptoanarchy",
in which cryptographic technology provides people the ability to
communicate in privacy, despite the best efforts of governments
to prevent their doing so. Examines technical developments that
led to it, and social possibilities that result from it.
(I wrote "The Cryptoanarchist Manifesto" for the 1988 Crypto Conference,
where it was privately distributed to a few folks. I'd been using the
term in talks around the Bay Area for several months prior to this,
e.g., in a talk with Marc Stiegler, Phil Salin, Jim Bennett, Dave Ross,
Chip Morningstar, Randy Farmer, and some others.)
--Tim May
"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a
monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also
into you." -- Nietzsche
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experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
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