From: "Duff, Alistair" <[log in to unmask]>
To: "'The Cyber-Society-Live mailing list is a moderated discussion
list for those interested'"
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Subject: RE: [CSL]: OBJECTIONS TO POLITICAL STATEMENTS?
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 09:13:10 +0100
John and Joanne and List Colleagues
I think that you showed good judgemnent in allowing the list to be
opened up
to humanitarian and even political exchanges. The enormity of the
atrocities
demanded openness. I can understand that an Israeli colleague would be
put
off by anti-US polemic. Could I say that I, for one, sympathise with
Zionism
and want to see Israel flourish, so long as this is not at the expense
of
Palestinians. Every life, every soul, in this world, is equally
precious.
The atrocities in the USA were attacks, however, on humankind itself,
as
President Putin put it.
Al
Dr Alistair S. Duff
Lecturer and Deputy Programme Leader MSc Journalism
School of Communication Arts
Napier University
Craighouse Road
Edinburgh
EH10 5LG
tel. 0131 455 6163/6150
fax. 0131 455 6193
email. [log in to unmask]
www.sca.napier.ac.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: John Armitage [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 19 September 2001 16:03
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [CSL]: OBJECTIONS TO POLITICAL STATEMENTS?
Importance: High
Hi folks
Joanne and I have received the email below concerning the
Cyber-Society-Live
list. It is fairly self-explanatory and was sent in response to the
posting
featuring Chomsky.
For our part, we have no problem discussing politics on the list.
After all,
the list exists to discuss the social, political, cultural and
economic
aspects of technology, mostly cybernetic technology of course. It was
these
interests that gave birth not only to the Exploring Cyber Society
conference
but also to this list.
As for discussing the events of 11. 09. 01 in NYC, we do not of any
lists
that have not been diverted to discussing these events. When people
stop
sending things they want to talk about concerning these events to the
list
we are sure it will return to more specifically cybernetic issues.
However,
it would be difficult to argue that the attack on the World Trade
Centre
Towers did not have a technological dimension, however high or
low-tech that
might be.
But, in the end, we hope this list is not here merely for the benefits
of
the moderators -- what would be the point of that? It is here for the
members. And it is, as far as we are concerned, the members who should
decide what is and is not discussed.
Reactions anyone?
best wishes
John & Joanne
[CSL moderators]
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Subject: Re: [CSL] Fwd: serious as hell
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:20:27 +0300 (IDT)
From: Gustavo Mesch <[log in to unmask]>
To: Joanne Roberts <[log in to unmask]>
> I am asking this list to stop posting political statements. In
particular
> one sided and unilateral analysis of the relationships between ultra
> fundamentalistic moslems groups and western countries. Most of them
are
> one sided, supporting the well known views of Iran, Irak, Hesbollah
and
> the Taliban on the Us. The purpose of this list is on Cyber issues
and it
> is not correct to change it purposes to convert it in the voice of
those
> that have killed thousands of innocent civilians in the US whose
only
> crime was to get up and go to work.
> Gustavo Mesch,
> Sociology
> U of Haifa, Israel.
>
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