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Subject:

Re: Sparse matrices!

From:

William F Mitchell <[log in to unmask]>

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Fortran 90 List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 2 Jan 2001 11:20:58 -0500

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Since you are only after a few eigenvalues and eigenvectors, you might be better
off with an iterative method instead of diagonalizing the matrix.  ARPACK and
it's parallel version PARPACK may be just the thing.  Check at
http://www.caam.rice.edu/software/ARPACK

Bill

varadharajan wrote:
>
> Hello
> I thought I should - as suggested - explain clearly what my problem is.
>
>  We are working in the field of Quantum Chemistry. The principles
> of Quantum Mechanics is used to study various properties. Here every
> "operator" has a matrix representation and we need to get their
> eigen-values and eigen-vectors. Once we get eigenvalues and eigenvectors
> we can use this "vector space" to find out "expectation-value" of other
> "operators". This "vector space" in principle should be infinite
> dimensional, but some clever tricks, approximations and symmetry of the
> operators restricts the dimensionality of vector space.
>
>  So once we decide how to form the operator (say H) and we have calculated
> the matrix representation, the next step is to diagonalise it. These are
> square matrices and sometime Hermitian. We also know that most of the
> entries are zero. So we use CSR format to store those data. Next step is
> to diagonalise and get "few" eigenvalues and eigenvectors. Problem comes
> when data size is large and we need multi-processer computation. The size
> of a matrix depends on a parameter called the system size "n" and it is
> 4^n. The value "n=8" means there will be 2^17 elements and even 20% of
> entries are non-zero  and unique then it makes our life complicated. On
> the other hand "n=8" is too small to make any statement about the
> physical system, because there are 10^23 atoms in one mole of substance.
>
> Thus our problem factorises into following parts:
>
>  1) Get the operator in matrix form:
>     Which we are doing by storing in CSR format which has only non-zero
>     and unique element. In addition we have a table which maps the
>     "matrix-coordinate" to it's value.
>  2) We have serial code for diagonalisation where we are interested in
>     only one eigen-value and corresponding eigen-vector. The matrix is not
>     symmetric in general, so we are using Rettrup algorithm to diagonalise
>     this. Here we use a Diagonalisation subroutine available from
>     the book "Numerical Recipes" or other available at netlib.org. These
>     are used to diagonalise the full "projected subspace" of original
>     vector space.
>
>  Our guess is the following:
>
>  Suppose we are using MPI. Here we can scatter data from one processor to
> the other. Thus each processor has it's own data set. We think that if we
> store data to different processor and device an algorithm which can tell
> us the element's value irrespective of which processor holds that value
> during computations. Since we need to use diagonalisation subrotuine in
> the intermediate steps, we are unable to find out suitable parallelisation
> scheme to this. We are using IBM's SP2 for parallel computing.
>
> This may not have answered all of your questions but we would be grateful
> if someone can give us suggestions as to which course to take and how to
> tackle the problem efectively.
>
> Regards,
> Varadharajan S

--
William F. Mitchell
Mathematical and Computational Sciences Division
National Institute of Standards and Technology
[log in to unmask]     http://math.nist.gov/~mitchell

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