Could people define the way that they are using the term avant-garde?
Does one poet make an avant-garde? I tend to think that a group turned
movement is avant-garde, or as Henry remarked with his points from
yesterday, has the term avant-garde been re-defined by post-moderns? (And
the for sake of clarity, I use post-modern to mean those who write/have
written after Modernist writers.)
--Anastasios
At 11:49 PM 6/1/01 +0100, you wrote:
>I have just glanced through DM Black's Collected Poems, 1964-1987. According
>to the Prefatory Note 2 of the poems are in hendecasyllables. Is the poet
>avant garde or not avant garde? Given that the work is striking in its use
>of language, innovative, non mainstream and open in its meaning and
>linguistic form.
>
>I expect that many savants out there will now tell me about Appollinaire's
>use of such and such
>
>and such metre.
>
>When I see a poet using metrical conventions I can feel inadequate.
>David Menzies
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "david.bircumshaw" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 6:59 PM
>Subject: Re: Laws of the Kingdom
>
>
> > > ps what sort of queens do you refer to re: uq.
> >
> > that's an open question, I guess, which isn't much of an answer, tho' I
> > think I'd keep quiet about it if for instance in the vicinity of the
>British
> > Lions touring rugby team 'and representing the U.Q....' - they might not
> > appreciate it.
> >
> > best
> >
> > david b
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "helix" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 4:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: Laws of the Kingdom
> >
> >
> > > Don't forget that Scotland, as one of the British nations, has a poet
> > > laureate: Edwin Morgan.
> > > David Menzies
> > >
> > > ps what sort of queens do you refer to re: uq.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "david.bircumshaw" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:53 AM
> > > Subject: Laws of the Kingdom
> > >
> > >
> > > > Well, Nottingham, or rather Nottinghamshire, has one, but frankly I
> > think
> > > > the whole thing ridiculous.
> > > > Glad though that it's got bums out onto seats, that at least is a
> > starting
> > > > point.
> > > >
> > > > best
> > > >
> > > > daviod b.
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Claire Crowther
> > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:32 AM
> > > > Subject: THE OTHER LAUREATES
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There are one or two other poet laureates in the UK as well as Andrew
> > > > Motion.
> > > > These aren't alternatives but rather extras doing, in effect, regional
> > > > residencies, and one of them, Lorna Dowell, Poet Laureate for Mole
> > Valley,
> > > > has been very effective in raising the profile of poetry throughout
>the
> > > area
> > > > of her Laureateship, the Mole Valley in Surrey.
> > > >
> > > > This development seems to go unnoticed but the result in Mole Valley
>is
> > > > hundreds of people attending events where poetry is used to connect
>with
> > > > everyday life (workplaces, libraries, waiting rooms) or other art
>forms
> > > such
> > > > as sculpture.
> > > >
> > > > Lorna Dowell is launching her first book, Wasp's Nest in Woman's Head,
> > > this
> > > > Saturday. Her work is described by UA Fanthorpe as...'the poems of a
> > > > magician; what Lorna Dowell sees she almost instantly transforms into
> > > > something else. Magic is only one aspect however. Dowell is also the
> > wit,
> > > > the
> > > > acute social observer, and - especially - the describer of the Mole
> > Valley
> > > > landscape where nothing passes her quick artist's eye. These poems are
> > > like
> > > > a
> > > > combination of Greek myth and social worker's report. The result is
> > > > altogether compelling - in fact, magical.'
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The launch is at 7.30 in the Masonic Hall of Dorking Halls, in
>Dorking,
> > > > Surrey on Saturday 2nd June. The book is available at £6.95 from Mole
> > > Valley
> > > > Arts Council - tel 01306 879 188 in office hours and ask for Charlotte
> > > > Gardiner.
> > > >
> > > > It would be interesting to have any information about other officially
> > > > appointed 'laureates' - there doesn't seem to be any register.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > CP Crowther
> > > >
> > >
> >
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