That's a bit harsh Kevin - yes the hope is that basic questions which
have been asked fifty times previously will be able to be addressed
through the archives, but that doesn't mean to say that those questions
aren't far from trivial for the new starters who ask them. I've been on
many mailing lists, and I don't think that the jiscmail is ovrburdening my
mailbox - if its from arthur loughran I delete it ;-) From talking to
people who are finding their feet with blackboard I think they see the
expertise they pick up from the jiscmail a welcome lifeline, but would
also be happy to find the answers them selves through archives rather than
feel that they are wasting people's time. I would be sorry if newer
blackboard users felt unable to ask what those of us a bit further
down the road may consider stupid questions - Iwish there had been so
many people avaliable to offer help when I started out. If you feel there
are too many trivial posts and comments, you could always unsubscribe!

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Kate Boardman
Learning Technologies Team
Information Technology Service
University of Durham DH1 3LE

Direct tel: 0191 374 1502
Email: [log in to unmask]

On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, Walsh Kevin wrote:

> >
> > do you think the Bb site is going to dilute the value of this
> > jisc-mail list?
> >
> 
> Hopefully it will - there's far too many trivial questions & comments
> circulated on the jisc-mail list.
> 
> Kevin Walsh
> Technical Director
> Computing & Information Services
> Liverpool John Moores University
> 24 Norton Street
> Liverpool L3 8PY
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> Fax: 0151 482 2404
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ben hyde [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 2:54 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: BUG Discussion Board
> >
> >
> > chris,
> >
> > do you think the Bb site is going to dilute the value of this
> > jisc-mail list?
> >
> > wouldn't it be good if Bb could serve both purposes?
> > it is frustrating that Bb doesn't support email discussions
> > have you ever used/joined e-groups (now yahoo groups)?
> > - it lets your email discussions (archives) sit alongside
> > documents and links
> > etc...
> > you can select to read and post online if you wish... and
> > quite a few other
> > flexible options
> >
> > all-owner,
> > are these jisc-mail postings archived?
> >
> > i am trying to find an old post that mentioned querying the
> > database - I am
> > looking for a way to extract Instructors and Teaching
> > Assistant's names and
> > emails etc. - this would seem to be an obvious requirement -
> > and could be added
> > to the advanced search (users of X type) - i remember someone
> > pointing out that
> > you shouldn't do this really (in terms of the license) - but
> > what they heck -
> > just cause I know how doesn't mean I'm gonna do it ;)
> >
> > any ideas?
> >
> > ben
> > ---
> >
> > "Richards C.R." wrote:
> >
> > > I will set this up shortly for you
> > > I was going to answer your question and then though - this
> > is the kind of
> > > thing the user boards are for - so when you log in go to the Admin
> > > Discussion board and you will find the answer!
> > >
> > > Oh I suppose that's a little "mean" so I will paste it here too
> > >
> > > We decided to prevent users from changing personal details
> > as it left it
> > > open for them to spoof e-mail anonymously from blackboard -
> > it is a pain as
> > > the e-mail is the only thing we really want to block but
> > you cannot block
> > > this separately.
> > > GO   ADMINISTRATION PANEL > SYSTEM SETTINGS > SYSTEM
> > SETTINGS/OVERRIDES
> > > Then  section 2 User Privilege System Parameters
> > > And disallow edit personal information
> > >
> > > You can only set this globally so it affects all users and
> > means that you
> > > have to include any essential information in your original
> > batch file and
> > > don't forget it includes instructors - only those with
> > admin status can
> > > modify personal information
> > >
> >
> > I see Chris - much to draconian for us.
> >
> > Not only do we not have the information about our users, but
> > as our staff and
> > students can create their own accounts it wouldn't work really :)
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ben hyde [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > Sent: 14 December 2001 12:22
> > > To: Clive Richards
> > > Subject: Re: BUG Discussion Board
> > >
> > > p.s. how can you block editting of personal info?
> > >
> > > Clive Richards wrote:
> > >
> > > > However if you dont know how to do this all I really need is your
> > > > surname,first name, user id** and e-mail address)
> > > > **please use the following convention for user id
> > BUGsurnameinitials
> > > > ie your surname and initials preceded by BUG which is
> > also the course code
> > > >
> > > > Once you have a user name you can access our site by pointing to
> > > >
> > > > http://blackboard.swan.ac.uk/
> > > >
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