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Re: Reynardine/Laws P15

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Chris Coe <[log in to unmask]>

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News and discussion relevant to the study of popular / folk / traditional b <[log in to unmask]>

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Sun, 22 Jul 2001 11:08:17 +0100

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Hello Pauline, The version of Reynardine that became popular during the
60`s/70`s Folk Revival can usually be traced back to A.L.Lloyd (Bert). It`s
on the CD - CLASSIC A.L.LLOYD - Fellside Records FECD98. Sleeve notes by
Bert -   " A favourite ballad in both Ireland & England in the C19th.Also
found widely scattered in N.America from Arkansas to Nova Scotia.The very
explicitly Mixolydian tune I use is but one of several attached to the
song".   The original recording is on Topic Vinyl12T118. Ufortunately, I
can`t lay my hands on my copy of it at the moment, - hope I haven`t lent it
out! He refers very definitely to the unease re the character of Reynardine
ie as a Man/Wolf (shapeshifter?) and his version ends............."His teeth
so bright did shine,And he led her over the mountains, Did the sly Bold
Reynardine". Can`t find much about his source(s) for the words, but he
quotes London Broadside printer Henry Parker Such ,123 Union St, The
Borough, as having a version - Rinordine -  for sale " during the first
decade of the C20th". (See his book "Folk Song in England" ).Bert was an ace
storyteller, & we all enrich texts at times! I still sing it. Will try &
access my old notes for more. Good Luck,  Chris Coe
-----Original Message-----
From: pgreenhi <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Date: 22 July 2001 03:27
Subject: Reynardine/Laws P15


>Hi all,
>
>I'm starting to do some work on Reynardine/Rinordine/Laws P15, and just
>wondered if you all might have any inspirations or suggestions.  I'm
>looking for traditional texts OTHER than what's listed in Laws.  I'm also
>looking for any scholarly work that's been done.  My searches on
>databases and the internet haven't turned up any (!).  I've found lots of
>material on the apparently cognate folktale versions--Bluebeard,
>Fitcher's Bird, Mr. Fox, etc.; quite a bit of feminist and other
>rewriting, as well as a few analyses, but not much that's really useful.
>It's also quite evident that Reynardine was pretty popular in the
>revival....
>
>So--any ideas would be much appreciated.
>
>Pauline Greenhill
>

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