JiscMail Logo
Email discussion lists for the UK Education and Research communities

Help for BALLADS Archives


BALLADS Archives

BALLADS Archives


BALLADS@JISCMAIL.AC.UK


View:

Message:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Topic:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Author:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

Font:

Proportional Font

LISTSERV Archives

LISTSERV Archives

BALLADS Home

BALLADS Home

BALLADS  2001

BALLADS 2001

Options

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Log In

Log In

Get Password

Get Password

Subject:

Re: Reynardine/Laws P15

From:

"Donald A. Duncan" <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

News and discussion relevant to the study of popular / folk / traditional b <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sun, 22 Jul 2001 00:27:06 -0400

Content-Type:

text/plain

Parts/Attachments:

Parts/Attachments

text/plain (81 lines)

Pauline Greenhill wrote:
>
> I'm starting to do some work on Reynardine/Rinordine/Laws P15, and just
> wondered if you all might have any inspirations or suggestions.  I'm
> looking for traditional texts OTHER than what's listed in Laws.  I'm also
> looking for any scholarly work that's been done.  My searches on
> databases and the internet haven't turned up any (!).  I've found lots of
> material on the apparently cognate folktale versions--Bluebeard,
> Fitcher's Bird, Mr. Fox, etc.; quite a bit of feminist and other
> rewriting, as well as a few analyses, but not much that's really useful.
> It's also quite evident that Reynardine was pretty popular in the
> revival....

It was probably pretty popular before that...  I can't help much - I
don't have Laws to check his text - but look for the alternate titles
"Mountains High" and "One Night Upon My Rambles", among no doubt others.
 I've heard a version under the former title - very beautiful - which I
think comes from Vermont, but I also turned up the following. [The girl
I heard sing the aforementioned version, who learned it from her mother
who was a "folksinger", wondered what the phrase "Venus' train" meant;
note that it occurs in this version...!]

In "Later English Broadside Ballads" (ed. John Holloway & Joan Black,
Routledge & Kegan Paul, London, 1975) - a selection of "black-letter"
ballads believed to be 18th or early 19th century, selected from the
Madden Collection at Cambridge University, I've found several
interesting items relating to songs currently in circulation, including
"Katie Cruel", "Curragh of Kildare", and "Renardine".  Here is the
latter, with the editor's notes.
-----------------------------------------------------

MOUNTAINS HIGH
Printed by J. Davenport, 6, George's Court
St. John's Gate, West Smithfield

One night upon my rambles from my belov'd again,
I met a farmer's daughter all on the lonesome plain
I said, my pretty fair maid, your beauty shines so clear
All on this lonesome place, I'm glad to find you here.

I said, young man be civil, my company forsake
And in my own opinion I think you are some rake,
But if my parents they should know, my life they will destroy,
For keeping of your company all on the mountains high.

It is true I am no rake brought up in Venus' train,
Or seeking for concealment all on the lonesome plain,
Your beauty so intic'd me I could not pass you by,
With my gun I will guard you all on the mountains high.

With that this pretty fair maid she stood all in amaze,
With eyes as bright as amber all on me she did gaze,
With cherry cheeks and ruby lips, she's the lass all for my eye,
She fainted in my arms, on the mountains high.

I did my best endeavour to bring her too [sic] again,
With that she kindly ask'd me I pray, sir what is your name?
Go to yonder forest, my castle there you'll find,
Wrote in some lonesome history, call you for Randal Rine.

I said, my pretty fair maid, don't let your parents know,
For if you do they'll ruin me, and prove mu overthrow;
And if that you should come for me, perhaps you will not ffind,
Go you to my castle, and call for Randall Rine.

Come all you pretty fair maids a warning take by me,
And do your best endeavour to shun bad company,
Or else, like me, you'll surely rue until the day you die,
Be warned of the lonesome roads all on the mountains high.

===
Irish, though printed in London.  "Rine" = Ryan.  For the melody see
/Journal of the English Folk-Song Society/, vol. I (1899-1904), p. 271,
under the title 'One Night upon my Rambles' (cf. the first line above).

-----------------------------------------------------

Hope this is useful.

- Donald A. Duncan

Top of Message | Previous Page | Permalink

JiscMail Tools


RSS Feeds and Sharing


Advanced Options


Archives

May 2024
September 2023
August 2022
July 2022
January 2022
November 2021
September 2021
August 2021
July 2021
June 2021
February 2021
December 2020
November 2020
October 2020
September 2020
August 2020
May 2020
February 2020
January 2020
December 2019
November 2019
September 2019
August 2019
June 2019
May 2019
April 2019
February 2019
January 2019
June 2018
May 2018
April 2018
March 2018
December 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
May 2017
April 2017
October 2016
May 2016
October 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
July 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
January 2014
June 2013
May 2013
March 2013
September 2012
June 2012
April 2012
March 2012
July 2011
May 2011
January 2011
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
July 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
July 2007
June 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
2006
2005
2004
2003
2002
2001
2000
1999
1998
1997


JiscMail is a Jisc service.

View our service policies at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/ and Jisc's privacy policy at https://www.jisc.ac.uk/website/privacy-notice

For help and support help@jisc.ac.uk

Secured by F-Secure Anti-Virus CataList Email List Search Powered by the LISTSERV Email List Manager