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Subject:

Re: Identifying composers of 19th century (or earlier) songs

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"W. B. OLSON" <[log in to unmask]>

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News and discussion relevant to the study of popular / folk / traditional b <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:00:07 -0400

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Julia C.Bishop wrote:
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> I am supervising a PhD student who is working on the collector, Alfred
> Williams. Amongst the songs he documented from rural music-making are
> a number of probably popular songs dating from the 19th century or
> before.
>
> The student is engaged in trying to identify the original composers of
> these songs and their date of composition. He has consulted
>
> M. Kilgariff, Sing us one of the old songs: A Guide to Popular Song
> M.W.Disher, Victorian Song
> M. Turner (ed.) The Parlour Song Book
> D. Scott, The Singing Bourgeois
> The Bodleian Library Broadside Ballad Catalogue (online)
> G. Malcolm Laws, American Ballads from British Broadsides
> ----, Native American Balladry
> J.S. Bratton, The Victorian Popular Ballad
> R. Pearsall, Victorian Popular Music
>
> There are still a number of songs which he hasn't been able to source,
> however. Does anyone know if there is a single comprehensive catalogue
> of 19th century popular songs? Or could anyone suggest further sources
> which might help, please?
>
> Alternatively, does anyone have any intelligence (composer and date of
> composition) on the following titles, please?
>
> The Baker's Oven (Biscuit the Baker)
> Baltimore
> In the days we went a gypsying
> Never cut your toenails on a Sunday
> The Cottage by the SEa
> Willie, we have missed you
> SMiling TOm
> Joe in the Copper
> My Blue-eyed Nellie
> Little plain gold ring
> Rosy May
> The Umbrella Courtship ('A belle and beau would walking go/In love
> they both were pining')
> Gentle Jenny Gray ('My heart is sad, I'll tell you why')
, itme > Gentle Annie ('Thou wilt come no more gentle Annie')
>
> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer. Apologies to those who
> have already received this message via other lists!
>
> Julia
>
> Julia C. Bishop (Dr) National Centre for English Cultural Tradition University of Sheffield Sheffield S10 2TN U.K.
> Tel: (Direct Line) 0114 222 6295 (A FURTHER NEW NUMBER!) (NATCECT Office) 0114 222 6296 EMAIL: [log in to unmask]
> ******************************************************* *New publication! * *PLAY TODAY IN THE PRIMARY SCHOOL PLAYGROUND * *LIFE, LEARNING AND CREATIVITY * *Edited by Julia C. Bishop and Mavis Curtis * *See http://195.89.185.89/bd.cgi/openup/isb?0335207154* *******************************************************

A note to "Trinity Chines", Levy collection, Box 169, item 037, says
that the tune for it quotes familiar themes, "The Yankee Volunteer" and
"Hail Columbia".

Bruce Olson

 --
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ballads at my no-spam website - www.erols.com/olsonw or
just <A href="http://www.erols.com/olsonw"> Click </a>

Motto: Keep it up; muddling through always works.

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