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Re: Thom's Directory (Dublin)

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Jen Headley <[log in to unmask]>

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News and discussion relevant to the study of popular / folk / traditional b <[log in to unmask]>

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Thu, 6 Dec 2001 08:47:24 -0800

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Thanks for all of you help, John!  My thesis is due on
Monday (Dec. 10), so the need for the info from the
Thom's Directories is no longer pressing.  I was just
curious.  I will still be curious in January, however,
as I am scheduled to give some speeches on my topic.
If you are interested in a copy of my (50 page)
thesis, I will email it to you.  It's a very
superficial, introductory-level paper, but you might
find pieces of it to be of interest.

Thanks for looking up those dates.  I am familiar with
those dates from those sources, but I think they're
wrong -- at least as far as an end-date.  "Lines
Written on the Most Dreadful Fire That Brokeout in
Chicago in America" must have been printed after
October 8, 1871 (the date the fire really happened) --
the first line of the ballad says the fire happened on
October 7.  I can go back and look at the address in
the imprint if you're interested in knowing where his
shop was located at that point.  This is why I gave a
larger range of dates for the Thom's Directories.

I have a hunch, though, that Brereton might not even
be listed in the Directory.  I have had the expert on
printing at the University of Texas look at Brereton's
ballads.  From the cracks in the "woodcuts" (probably
something like zinc because wood shouldn't split like
that) and the lack of type (the cause of his
"misspellings," etc.), this expert thinks that
Brereton might have printed ballads exclusively -- he
certainly was not a professional printer because he
did not have the resources to print 5 stanzas without
running out of letters.  He thinks that Brereton's
ballads could have been printed on a unique kind of
press that resembled a rolling-pin and would have been
easily transportable.  I have not looked into this
theory, but it would mean that Brereton could have
traveled and sung his ballads.

Do you have any idea where Bradshaw got their dates?

Cheers!
Jen

--- [log in to unmask] wrote:
> In a message dated 12/5/2001 1:24:21 AM GMT Standard
> Time, [log in to unmask]
> writes:
>
>
> > Does anyone have easy access to a Thom's Directory
> > (aka Thom's Commercial Directory) for Dublin for
> any
> > of the years between 1866 and 1873?
> >
> > I want to know if P. Brereton is listed as a
> printer
> > in this directory.
> >
> If you are still stuck at 7th January, let me know -
> I'll be going to Dublin
> where the National Library of Ireland has most of
> the Directories from 1824
> or so. It'll be of interest to me. Have you looked
> up the Catalogue of the
> Bradshaw Irish collection (3 vols) Cambridge, 1916
> where some dates are
> given? The Bodleian says only c1867. Colin Neiland's
> 1984 thesis gives
> addresses 1 lower Exchange Street (1867-69), 55
> Cooke Street (1869) and 3 or
> 8 Goodman's Lane without date. His authority was
> usually Bradshaw.
>
> John Moulden
>
>


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