Kevin

The short timescale involved at the end of the process must have been
obvious to the TTA.  Why could we not have been given some warning that this
additional data MIGHT be required? What will the TTA's response be if we
decide that we will not provide the additional information because we do not
have the resources to do so in the time allowed?

Do you have any comment on the role of the TTA as a responsible public body
in the context of proper use of HE funds?

Roger Clark
Academic Registrar
University of Reading


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Admin-student [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of
> Watkins Kevin
> Sent: 19 September 2001 16:07 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: 2001 ITT Trainee Numbers Census
>
>
> Judy,
>
> Thanks for this email.  I am sorry if the information we have asked for
> seems to be a significant increase to that of previous years.
>
> The notification to providers of the census' data requirements has been
> delayed this year because the finalisation of some of the TTA funding
> responsibilities (e.g. ITT fast track scheme) for 2001/02.  Some of these
> responsibilities were not agreed until late August.  Obviously
> the TTA could
> not notify ITT providers of changes to the census before these
> responsibilities were finalised.
> In anticipation to additional data requirements, we submitted a
> proposal for
> these changes to the TTA's internal Star Chamber in June 2001 -
> of which was
> approved.  The changes outlined in this proposal showed that,
> under the new
> requirements, some providers would need to provide more
> information, others
> less.  In your particular situation, it looks as if there will be a small
> increase in the amount of information we require.  The TTA Star Chamber is
> represented by the TTA, DfES and ITT providers; its purpose is to ensure
> that there are no unnecessary data burdens placed on ITT providers.
>
> As I am sure you will agree, the most significant change this year is that
> we now require registration information at year of course level.
> This is so
> the TTA is more able to accurately identify how many trainees there are in
> the system and when these trainees are likely to complete their courses -
> obviously this is particularly important when setting future
> intake targets.
> We assumed that this information would be readily available from
> providers'
> registrations databases.
>
> Please accept my apologies for the late notification of the census
> requirements - I hope it will not cause too much inconvenience.
>
> Kevin Watkins
> Teacher Training Agency
> Funding and Allocations
> Tel: 020-7925-3724
> Fax: 020-7925-3791
> Email: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From:   Judy Evans [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
>         Sent:   Wednesday, September 19, 2001 1:23 PM
>         To:     [log in to unmask]
>         Cc:     [log in to unmask]; [log in to unmask];
> [log in to unmask]
>         Subject:        2001 ITT Trainee Numbers Census
>
>         Colleagues,
>
>         I have just received the ITT data requirements for the 2001 ITT
>         census from the TTA, letter dated 18th September 2001. The census
>         date for this survey is 10th October 2001, with a return date to
>         TTA by no later than 17th October 2001.
>
>         Given the annual nature of this request, we had previously
>         anticipated the requirement and have already put measures in
>         place to ensure that ITT students get priority in terms of data
>         entry onto our Student Record system, given the very short time
>         frame between our term start and this census. Our assumption has
>         also been, in the absence of any indications to the contrary,
>         that the standard data items would be required, and our reporting
>         mechanisms have been checked and updated to ensure compliance.
>
>         I was therefore somewhat disheartened to find that the TTA have
>         decided to require additional data from us this year, for which
>         we have had no forewarning. Thus at the busiest time of the year
>         for us in terms of data collection and entry, we are now required
>         to amend our reporting mechanisms to ensure that the data we are
>         required to report to them is readily available for us to do this
>         task. In the absence of time and resources, we will no doubt have
>         to resort to 'paper-chasing' to provide the information now asked
>         for.
>
>         HEFCE normally provide a three month lead-in time to any changes
>         to HESES, for which we are grateful, but which still proves
>         challenging to meet. To be given three weeks is derisory.
>
>         Am I alone in feeling frustrated and aggrieved?
>
>         Judy
>         ----------------------
>         Judy Evans
>         Head of Management Information
>         University of North London
>         166-220 Holloway Road
>         London N7 8DB
>
>         tel : 020 7753 5146
>         fax : 020 7753 5120
>
>         email : [log in to unmask]
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>
>
>
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