on Mon, 23 Jul 2001 20:20:28 +1000
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>> What crap Steve. This kind of sneaky bullshit really gets up my nose.
and this kind of sneaky rhetoric really gets up my nose. i've watched
kent being hounded off two lists, and by way of explanation all you can
seem to say is that everyone ought to trust you and the other listowners.
i'm sorry if having to explain what a person is charged with is boring
for you. i can assure you it is exceedingly boring for me to have to
attempt to get blood from a stone - i'd much rather be getting on with
my work. but if kent can be "written out" and protest landscaped over
then who is safe?
>> I think the actions which the list managers have taken are quite
>> clear, and I really do not want to bore the 200 or so members who are
>> not Kent Johnson with a protracted series of accusations and counter
>> accusations, which are sheer poison to goodwill on a list - as
>> happened very nastily on British Poets, and is clear in this very
>> exchange.
i agree that what happened on british-poets was very nasty. kent was
attacked because he challenged a consensus. he was also accused of being
"boring", if i remember rightly, even though consensus poetics can be
pretty boring after a few years of the same voices putting across an
"official line".
eventually he was suspended for his lack of respect for authority, more
than anything else. that is, certain people didn't like what he had to
say and he wouldn't shut up so he was silenced. but you know this, of
course.
>> It should be perfectly clear there are other issues beside the
>> on-list ones: including the fact (there are others) which I know for
>> sure, that he rejoined the list gunning for Candice.
is there any actual evidence to back this claim, or is it once again a
matter of just trusting you? would it be too too boring for you to have
to explain your serious allegation?
steve
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