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Re: STIMULUS: THE READER

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Orpheus <[log in to unmask]>

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Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and poetics <[log in to unmask]>

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Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:53:30 -0500

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O this is a valid point for sure. But when we speak
I am suggesting we already write. Precisely this
is what Vico is telling is about those early humans.
They spoke and saw and heard language, and that
act was writing; writing is legere, to gather
together, in the act of speech they wrote.
All of this is so well said by Vico in 'The NEw Science.'
Which text comprises the theoretical underpinnings
of Finnegans Wake; Derrida makes similar points in various
texts which concern precisely this matter. As for so-called
illiterates they too read, they and write with their memory;
I am not speaking on the level of function in day to day life,
but as the activity internally which they live. I know and
have several 'illiterate' friends and this is what they
experience; and the writer, at least as seen from here,

writes for those who do not read and write.
"the creator, the poet and painter wants to be
discovered by the non-creative;" [RD LAING Politics
of Experience] That indeed is the terror and the joy.
The nothingness which precedes creation that lends
itself to the reader[s] who read from the distant
dizzy view of non-creativity; which is the other
side of death; where the poetic voice does not invent;
but receives in its movement and re-composition the
texts -- whether delivered by the scroll, screen, the paper,
the ochre tablets, or the book in the heart, or the
volume in the ear which reads what is heard, and heard is also
anagrammatical of read sans the H consonant; This is to
write always. 'I am always writing.' So all words are
written across the sky of the thunders and others. And
this is also what one can learn from Vico. And others who
have read and written 'signature of all things I am here to
read. I am almost there, that boot in the sand etc. I am
almosting it,'I quote from read memory which is seen
in the entelchy of the heard seen word.
If anything the so-called 'illiterates' are closer to this. What
is a poet and writer if they do not call to those who
do not read, but a deaf dummy speaking to herself. And
is writing to be measured by the functional failures
of the body politic? By its failure, I suppose one can name it
thus, to appreciate its mulitudes who have spoken the words in
their sleep? 'After the first love there is no other' After
the first unrolling ofthe words thelanguage is
forever scripted in the head-body which is the wax seal of language and
its makes upon the body of man; and does one seek the political
consensus of agreement with the 'oral' historians? As moretrue in
so-named 'true ' ways; 'You have confused the true and the real.'
I said the true and the real, not the true and the false; so
she
said the other day, let the dead be my readers, a dead
reader has entered her head withthe rhyme of reading which is
writing, and the level then shifts somewhat.

---- More after. Afterward.--- Then some.

------You write:
> No it doesn't.  We all speak first.  And what about illiterates?  Are
> they simply disallowed participation in human language because they can't
> write?
>
> A
>

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