Exactly, which is what I implied but did not state explicitly because I had
been under the impression that such was quite clear and that to spell it out
might wound others' sense of their own intellectual acumen ("How could one
recycle something one has consumed?"). Which leads me to question Sarah's
premise. By their very nature, "consumables" are not "recyclable," so I
remain baffled by your comments, Susan. Pray explain, if you would be so
kind.
-Tc
PS: that's rhetoricians for those who study, or rhetor for those who utter
(or write, of course), statements. -Tc
Anthony R. S. Chiaviello, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor, Professional Writing
Department of English
University of Houston-Downtown
One Main Street
Houston, TX 77002-0001
713.221.8520 / 713.868.3979
"Question Reality"

> ----------
> From:         Steve[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent:         Tuesday, August 28, 2001 11:34 AM
> To:   [log in to unmask]
> Subject:      Re: recycling
>
> *sigh*....
>
> Consumables are not recyclable.  The reason should be
> obvious...especially to rhetoriticians.
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> --- Sarah Shobrook <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > If consumables were not recyclable, people might become more aware
> > of the
> > realities of using them and begin to be more careful or cautious,
> > at the
> > moment recycling provides the opt out of reality.
> >
> > Sarah
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chiaviello, Anthony" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 6:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: recycling
> >
> >
> > I agree with Sarah's points, except I'm not clear on how one would
> > "recycle"
> > (or reuse, for that matter) a "consumable."
> >
> > Huh? Please clarify.
> >
> > -Tc
> > Anthony R. S. Chiaviello, Ph.D.
> > Assistant Professor, Professional Writing
> > Department of English
> > University of Houston-Downtown
> > One Main Street
> > Houston, TX 77002-0001
> > 713.221.8520 / 713.868.3979
> > "Question Reality"
> >
> > > ----------
> > > From:         Sarah Shobrook[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > > Sent:         Saturday, August 25, 2001 4:39 AM
> > > To:   [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject:      Re: recycling
> > >
> > > Hi Ray
> > >
> > > I think that as an alternative to recycling - I'd say do nothing,
> > stop
> > > recycling and stand back, look and wait. While people are allowed
> > the
> > > option of feeling good about what they presumably do to save the
> > > environment there is no way that the destruction will stop.
> > >
> > > We now not only live in a throw away society, but also a blame
> > culture, so
> > > it is always somebody's fault when something goes wrong, few
> > people want
> > > to leave anything to chance, recycling is part of this process.
> > It
> > > provides people an opportunity to say well its not my fault that
> > the
> > > rainforests disappeared I recycled all my paper, therefore it
> > must be
> > > someone else's fault.
> > >
> > > Recycling consumable objects only disguises real problems and
> > allows
> > > people to opt out and shift responsiblity.
> > >
> > > I know that this position is radical, but it would in the long
> > run be less
> > > harmful, if people became aware of nature and all its
> > peculiarities and
> > > not only looked for the perfected society.
> > >
> > > Sarah Shobrook PhD
> > >
> > >       ----- Original Message -----
> > >       From: Ray Lanier
> > >       To: [log in to unmask]
> > >       Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 4:07 PM
> > >
> > >       Hello Sarah Shobrook,
> > >
> > >       You wrote:
> > >
> > >               -----
> > >               As an anti recyclist I think its time someone put a
> > spoke in
> > > the cycle of recylcing - recycling in whatever form fore shadows
> > > environmental problems and drags people into an illusion that
> > they are
> > > saving the world, while continuing to destroy it.
> > >
> > >               Recycling is now such a big industry in all its
> > different
> > > guises people have got caught in its perpatual motion and the
> > only way out
> > > would be to stop recycling, let people see the damage they are
> > doing.
> > >
> > >               Ray here:
> > >               What do you suggest as an alternative to
> > "recycling" that is
> > > better? I can't think of one at the moment under the present
> > > social/commercial structure.
> > >
> > >
>
>
> =====
> "In a nutshell, he [Steve] is 100% unadulterated evil. I do not believe in
> a 'Satan', but this man is as close to 'the real McCoy' as they come."
> --Jamey Lee West
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