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Re: Fwd: The Myth of the Martyred Mapmaker

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John Foster <[log in to unmask]>

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Discussion forum for environmental ethics.

Date:

Mon, 21 May 2001 23:37:57 -0700

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It is interesting how personalities become more important than the issues
for some. I find this rather strange. It is not something that I am
acustomed to here. Perhaps this is a new and emerging social phenomenon.

It appears that Ian Thomas most serious error was to put obselete data on
his Caribou calfing maps, much to the chagrin of his USGS boss. This error
appeared to be the most common complaint. So there is a desire to have the
most reliable information made available to the public. Lets get on with
this...

The bright side, not the 'far side', is that there is consensus regarding
the value of environmental protection (excepting of course large oil and
natural gas companies, fugitive releases from pipelines amount to as much as
5 % of the GHG emissions currently in Australia for instance) and it is
increasing at a rapid rate (The Green Party is the fastest growing party in
the much of the world).

There was a very interesting report on CBC recently criticizing the Canadian
company Talisman which is contributing to a lot of unnecessary suffering in
Sudan because of their ownership of the oil and gas rights there (apparently
almost as large as Iranian oil reserves). There are probably some very good
articles on the web that discuss companies like this which exploit political
and religious differences for their advantage....

The common tactic of a large multinational corporation in the case of a new
oil and gas venture, or any kind of new venture with huge environmental
impacts is to first cause a decisive split within the local population. This
way it is very difficult to obtain consensus amongst the early opponents. It
is the oldest and most successful tactic practiced by large firms that
pollute and deplete: simply 'divide and conquer'.

This will be one of the tactics that will be attempted on the coastal area
of the last remaining Inuit territories along the Arctic coastline.

chao

john foster

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Meuser <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: Fwd: The Myth of the Martyred Mapmaker


> I got in on this early on as a response to an email from Ian thomas,
> the mapmaker.  I was able to archive most of the maps and data
> before they were permanently deleted, placed them on a CD and
> and sent them overnight to Ian.  When the USGS made the claim
> that all was back online I challenged their PR person in several
> email forums -- explaining that there were 1000's of maps missing
> from the website.  After several failed attempts at more PR and BS,
> the PR person gave up.  So, I know for a fact that the maps were
> indeed missing and that Ian was fired.  They love to make a big
> deal of his being a contractor rather than an employee -- big deal!
> This is the same story that hit several papers a couple of months
> ago.  I do not know if Norton knew of it or not.  We'll probably never
> know for sure.  But hey, the facts that count are not "mythological"
> in any manner.
>
> Here's a link to my original pages on this.
>
>   http://www.mapcruzin.com/stop_web_censorship.htm
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> > Fwd: The Myth of the Martyred MapmakerHello Jim,
> >
> > Where have you been?  Long time, no see/hear/read.
> >
> > Do  you have the address for the "Myth of the Martyred (sic or sick?)
Mapmaker"?  I couldn't find it when I followed the directions.  Today is
Monday 21 May is it not?  When you are retired you tend to lose track of
time! :-)
> >
> >   Does anyone know what the "Wildlife Management Institute" is?  Is it a
government agency with compentence to judge this particular "myth"  or to
cast judgement of episode in toto?
> >
> >   Ray
> > ------------------
> >
> >
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Jim Tantillo
> >   To: [log in to unmask]
> >   Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 1:24 PM
> >   Subject: Fwd: The Myth of the Martyred Mapmaker
> >
> >
> >   Hi everyone,
> >   Since we've had some discussion of this topic on this list (see e.g.
<http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk
> /cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind0103&L=enviroethics&F=&S=&P=9006>), I thought
forwarding the link below might
>  be of interest to some list members.
> >   Jim T.
> >
> >
> >   --- begin forwarded text
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   Status: U
> >   Date:         Mon, 21 May 2001 09:02:48 EDT
> >   Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
> >   Sender: TWS-L Discussion List <[log in to unmask]>
> >   From: "Jim woehr [log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
> >   Subject:      The Myth of the Martyred Mapmaker
> >   To: [log in to unmask]
> >
> >   In view of last week's postings and Doonesbury coverage, you may be
> >   interested in today's front page story of the Washington Post titled
"The
> >   Myth of the Martyred Mapmaker.  Go to http://www.washingtonpost.com,
scroll
> >   down until you see the featured story, and click on the link.
> >
> >   Jim
> >
> >   James R. Woehr
> >   Senior Scientist
> >   Wildlife Management Institute
> >   1101 14th St., NW, Suite 801
> >   Washington, DC 20005
> >   Phone:  202-371-1808
> >   Fax: 202-408-5059
> >   email:  [log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> >   --- end forwarded text
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++
> Michael R. Meuser,
> [log in to unmask]
>
> http://www.mapcruzin.com/
> Environmental & Social Cartography, WebMaps
> Environmental Justice, Right-to-Know Advocacy
>
> http://www.mapcruzin.com/news_discussion.htm
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