Henry,
You need to check up on your undergrad notes!! These authors and there
concepts are well known and taught, Butler is the person who gave us all the
big shove towards neural dynamics, and I am sure if you look it up you will
find his name in your notes.
-----Original Message-----
From: Henry Tsao <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Wednesday, 18 October 2000 9:14
Subject: RE: evidence based practice...
>Dear Nikki,
>
>I am totally amazed by the extent of knowledge you give your students,
>because I believe it is up to them to decide what combination of techniques
>they will use. Some of the concepts on the list I have never heard of..
such
>as Elvry, Edwards, Butler... I just wish I went through something like that
>in my undergraduate days!!
>
>Henry***
>
>
>>From: [log in to unmask]
>>Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: RE: evidence based practice...
>>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 14:44:07 +0100
>>
>>Dear Henry
>>
>>Fear not!!
>>
>>At the School of Healthcare Professions, University of Brighton, England
we
>>teach concepts from Maitland, McKenzie, Mulligan, Edwards, Elvey, Butler,
>>Travell & Simons, Jull, Richardson, Hodges, Hides, Kaltenborn, Cyriax to
>>undergraduate physiotherapy students.
>>
>>We teach the clinical reasoning put forward by Maitland which is described
>>theoretically by Jones.
>>
>>We teach examination, assessment, treatment and management of joints,
>>nerves
>>and muscles.
>>
>>I think you may well find this to be true at other Schools of
Physiotherapy
>>throughout the UK.
>>
>>Radical or what?!
>>
>>Nikki
>>
>>Nikki Petty MSc, Grad Dip Manip Ther, MCSP, MMPAA, MMACP
>>Senior Lecturer and Course Leader for MSc Manipulative Physiotherapy
>>School of Healthcare Professions
>>University of Brighton
>>Robert Dodd Building
>>49 Darley Road
>>Eastbourne
>>BN20 7UR
>>
>>
>>Telephone 01273 643775
>>Fax 01273 643652
>>e mail [log in to unmask]
>>
>>
>> > ----------
>> > From: Henry Tsao
>> > Reply To: [log in to unmask]
>> > Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 22:48
>> > To: [log in to unmask]
>> > Subject: RE: evidence based practice...
>> >
>> > David,
>> >
>> > You do not learn these at the university level, but pursue this after
>>you
>> > graduate through courses and continual education. The only reason why I
>> > refer to these techniques as radical is because for a graduate who went
>> > through the "Maitland approach," Mulligan and McKenzie offers me a
>> > different
>> > way of thinking about the human body, and I could only be saddened that
>> > students are not been taught this. I know a few of my friends who went
>> > through uni who still believe that Maitland is the answer, and wonder
>>why
>> > they don't get the success that so many of us have using a combination
>>of
>> > techniques.
>> >
>> > Henry***
>> >
>> > >From: David <[log in to unmask]>
>> > >Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
>> > >To: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
>> > >Subject: RE: evidence based practice...
>> > >Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 12:27:17 +0100
>> > >
>> > >Henry
>> > >
>> > >Although South African trained, I am working in the UK and have worked
>> > >with or been associated with numerous physios from OZ. Almost without
>> > >exception, they have all used elements of Maitland, Mulligan, soft
>> > >tissue work akin to Travell and Simons, rehab and very little
>> > >electrotherapy .
>> > >
>> > >Where are they learning these 'radical' techniques if not in
Australia?
>> > >
>> > >dave riddell
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > From: Henry Tsao [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
>> > > > Sent: 16 October 2000 11:43
>> > > > To: [log in to unmask]
>> > > > Subject: evidence based practice...
>> > > >
>> > > > Recently, since I have joined the mailbase, I have found myself
>> > > > searching
>> > > > for research and looking for answers behind what I am actually
>>doing.
>> > > > I have
>> > > > continued to question my work. From what I know, it seems that
>> > > > everybody is
>> > > > interested in evidence based practice.
>> > > >
>> > > > However, I was talking to Megan Dalton, who is a well known
>> > > > physiotherapist
>> > > > in Australia early last week. She is a very out spoken Physio and a
>> > > > very
>> > > > interesting physio to talk to (I have seen her talk in 2 occasions,
>> > > > and she
>> > > > just has so much energy!!). She told me that it seemed ridiculous
>>that
>> > > >
>> > > > Physiotherapy departments in Australia don't teach Mulligan's,
>> > > > Mckenzie and
>> > > > other radical techniques, for the pure reason that there is not
>>enough
>> > > >
>> > > > evidence. However, (and I know that this is true for me) they teach
>>so
>> > > > much
>> > > > electrotherapy, most of which does not have too much research
anyway
>> > > > (due
>> > > > mostly to the difficulty of these techniques), and this seemed very
>> > > > ironical
>> > > > to her and to me also.
>> > > >
>> > > > Megan perceived the future of physiotherapy to be with little or no
>> > > > electrotherapy (which to me is a very big step), and I just wanted
>>to
>> > > > ask
>> > > > what people in this mailbase thought about this claim. To let
people
>> > > > know,
>> > > > the electro I use is a Likon, ultrasound, at time the
interferential
>> > > > (which
>> > > > I do not use too often these days), and very rarely the magnetic
>>wave.
>> > > > I
>> > > > tried to search for research the other day, but obviously was
>>limited
>> > > > in
>> > > > what I found. any thoughts or ideas??
>> > > >
>> > > > Henry***
>> > > >
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