PNF is a good technique that I was also taught, and I do use PNF contract
relax in combination with stretch and spray, and it works wonders - I did
not say that PNF is not a good technique at all! UV lamps as well as SWD
machines however are not used too often these days, and yet we are taught
these techniques as well.
To add to this, I don't follow Travell and Simons techniques to the book...
they suggest only stretching, but I do contract the muscles afterwards.
Henry***
>From: Robin Shutt <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
>To: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: RE: Re: cold spray
>Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 13:09:59 +0100
>
>Which thankfully is still being taught in schools and used by clinicians in
>my part of the world! -despite Henrys statement below.
> (and believe me, they don't use UV lamps or PNF too much these
>days!!).
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: David [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 12:34 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: RE: Re: cold spray
>
>I believe it does: PNF is an excellent example of what I had in mind
>
>dave r
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robin Shutt [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: 04 October 2000 09:13
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: RE: Re: cold spray
> >
> > >Surely we should be 'strengthening' and 'lengthening' at the
> > same time if at all possible> - and isn't that what PNF does -and in a
> > functional pattern?
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 5:14 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: RE: Re: cold spray
> >
> > Why do these two variables (length and strength) have to be mutually
> > exclusive? Surely we should be 'strengthening' and 'lengthening' at
> > the
> > same time if at all possible
> >
> > dave R
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: luke harris [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > > Sent: 30 September 2000 17:55
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: Re: cold spray
> > >
> > > ** As Philip Greenman said in one of his papers, the emphasis should
> > > be more on muscle length rather than muscle strength, and that if a
> > > muscle is both tight and weak, one should stretch the muscle first
> > > before strengthening it.
> > >
> > >
> > > this confers right back to rood's stages of motor control. we've
> > been
> > > learning about these stages, and various techniques to help progress
> > > from one stage to the next, all semester. things makes sense!
> > >
> > > it makes sense to improve PROM before working on AROM. why
> > strengthen
> > > the muscle in its limitted range, then lengthen it? you'd end up
> > with
> > > a muscle of normal/desired length that would have poor activation
> > > throughout range, and you would have to work on strength again.
> > (hope
> > > i'm making myself clear).
> > >
> > > i know that may be very straight forward stuff for everyone on this
> > > list... however, i can't help but get a little excited when the
> > things
> > > we learn at uni start to click, and i get a chance to rationalise
> > them
> > > in real situations.
> > >
> > > luke.
> > >
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