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Publishing site reports (intarch-interest)

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Judith Winters <[log in to unmask]>

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Judith Winters <[log in to unmask]>

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Tue, 6 Jun 2000 12:05:43 +0100 (BST)

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See intarch-interest list archives for previous discussion
http://www.mailbase.ac.uk/lists/intarch-interest/archive.html

Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 14:56:29 -0500
From: Paul Schmidt <[log in to unmask]>

Some of us still like to read paper books, and among our favorite 
places to do so are the bathroom or bed, especially the latter when 
we are coping with a thick, dense monograph that puts us to sleep 
within the hour. When the laptop falls to the floor on falling asleep 
one may wonder about the benefits of electronic publishing.

Now, getting serious, I would like to make some comments from across 
the ocean. First, allow me to tell where I am coming from. At 58 I am 
one of the early computer archaeologists. I started out designing 
databases and scanning graphics on an Apple II+. When Internet got 
going I was enthralled with E-mail. Now I use Macs, and am a quite 
profficient navigator on the Web. On the Apple I wrote most of my 
programs in BASIC; now I use mostly commercial programs. I am just 
beginning to feel the need to learn to design for the Web, this 
year's free-time project.

I have mixed feelings about electronic publication. It is definitely 
needed, especially if we want to get archaeology out to the general 
public. In that sense we do need to plan the publication differently 
than a normal report or monograph (Dave Petts) because the general 
public does not necessarily need all the detailed data that 
colleagues need, such as sherd counts, rim profiles, etc. If we were 
going to publish a normal, traditional report on the web, then, well, 
I might agree with Denise, that one does not have to plan it 
differently, but then we would be risking a great deal.

As Gerry Mos says "...but at the end of the day is not the 
information public knowledge? It is part of our collective history." 
No matter what kind of archaeology we are practicing, academic or 
crm, as professionals we have an obligation to make our data public, 
to share it with our colleagues; that is the only ethical approach. 
There can be no such thing as client confidentiality in dealing with 
cultural patrimony; it is not private property.

But for our data to be useful in the long run, it must have 
permanence. This is the most serious problem confronting 
e-publication. I am not that up-to-date on what the Archaeology Data 
Service has achieved so far, but I am pretty sure they cannot have 
solved our main problems yet: just as there are few machines around 
that still read 5" floppies, in 10 years, at the rate technology is 
changing, it will no longer be possible to read CD's or even DVD's. 
To insure electronic permanence, a scheme by which electronic data is 
periodically updated in libraries must not only be implemented but 
become routine worldwide before we can give up hardcopy publication. 
I sort of get the impression that there are colleagues out there who 
are not much worried about having the raw data around to analyze in 
new ways or to look at in terms of seeing whether conclusions derived 
from it are really justified. Don't tell me our students no longer 
consult things such as Clark (Star Carr), Kidder (Kaminaljuyu) or 
Willey (Viru Valley); had it been possible to publish any of these 
electronically, they would now be lost forever.

For the time being, I feel we should publish in both places. The web 
allows periodic updating of site reports as work at a site 
progresses, without having to wait 10 years after fieldwork to see 
the results. True, fine resolution of graphics is lost, but there are 
some advantages also, such as color images which are prohibitive in 
paper publications. I am optimistic, As David Petts says, all these 
problems will be dealt with in time, but meanwhile, let's not risk 
loosing valuable data.

As far as the loss of revenue mentioned by Rob Burns, How much 
revenue does an archaeologist make from field reports? In my 
experience royalties and such are unheard of in our business; we 
normally have to seek foundation money for publication because no 
commercial editor in his right mind would even hope to come out even.

At the Anthropology Institute of the National University we have 
three computer people, one of which is good at designing for the web, 
but he doesn't have time; as was mentioned, between fixing printers, 
viruses, and the like of fifty researchers. To use outside people we 
must start thinking of including the cost in our grant applications. 
The younger generation of archaeologists have grown up with computing 
and the Web; for them all this should present no problems. A further 
complication is that our income depends in part upon publication, and 
we must convince various bureaucratic university and government 
agencies that Web publication is a valid endeavor. Perhaps as Ken 
Stuart suggests, a CD-ROM may help; it is something material, more so 
than an http address.

With Gerry Mos, and I suspect everyone else, I look forward to see 
what the UCLA template will help us out with. It certainly sounds 
interesting.

Paul
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