Hope you didn't mind me forwarding to A&E list - seems more apropriate
jeremy
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Subject: Re: Working at the side of a motorway
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I am really glad someone brought this topic up. I have had spate of being
very close to accidents or near misses on motorways, and I am getting very
familiar with the "should I or shouldn't I" dilemma. 2 of them I stopped
for - one being a van upside down on the hard shoulder of the M42, and the
other similar, and as "first on scene" I was VERY relieved and my services
were not required. I repeat Andrews praise for those who do that sort of
thing regularly.
But one episode was more of a dilemma - namely being stuck in queue of
traffic grinding to a halt with no idea why. With retrospect, HAD I been
able to offer my services (as opposed to being an unknown distance away and
stuck in the jam), I would have been first on scene at a nasty 3 vehicle
accident with serious trauma, and hence presumably of some use (I'd like to
think - and no sarkie comments from Jeremy please!). But at the time, all I
knew was that "something" had happened, "somewhere" down the road,
"sometime" ago. And hence sat in the car doing nothing (after 90 minutes, 1
helicopter and a couple of ambulances, the gravity of things was apparent,
but a bit late by then).
I am sure that driving down the hard shoulder at motorway queues on the off
chance that one might of use is NOT the right thing to do - but can anyone
tell me what is? The frequency with which I have found myself in this
situation lately makes me think someone somewhere is telling me something -
like go on a PHECs course or something.
Any thoughts?
Jon Bury
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>Subject: Working at the side of a motorway
>Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 11:46:13 +0100
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>Not really an academic point, I know, but I wanted to send a message of
>appreciation to all those who work "in the field".
>
>I stopped on the M6, north of Lancaster, yesterday, at the scene of an
>accident ("should I or shouldn't I?"). A neonatal ITU ambulance, who
>happened to be coming back from a transfer in Glasgow, had stopped. Apart
>from them I was first on the scene medicwise.
>
>A woman (who happened to be a nurse) had been hit by a van. She was outside
>of her vehicle. She had stopped as she had seen another car come off the
>carriageway. This certainly emphasized a SAFE approach!
>
>She was, fortunately, quite stable and very lucky.
>
>Anyway, to cut a long story short, it cetainly emphasized the danger and
>difficulty of this environment. It was a cool summer's evening, but even
>this degree of cold gave some difficulty in assessing the patients
>circulation without any technology and emphasized the importance of keeping
>the patient warm. It was also very noisy, making hearing any breath sounds
>very difficult.
>
>I wanted to say that I have a new sense of appreciation for anybody who
>works outside of warm, comfortable resus rooms. I thought I had some
>before, but none compared to that I have now.
>
>If anybody who happened to be involved in caring for those involved in the
>accident, either there or at Royal Lancaster, is reading this then well
>done and thank you very much.
>
>Something else folks may be able to help me with. I am now a baby
>motorcyclist. I have seen stickers for helmets saying "In the event of an
>accident DO NOT remove this helmet unless you are a paramedic". Anybody
>know where you can get these from? Please reply to me. Thanks,
>
>Andrew Curphey
>Manchester
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