You are quite right. The discussion is becomimg heated. I would like to
say that I did not intend to offend anyone, but to just put forward a
concept. Perhaps I could have put it in a more sensitive way. I shall in
future. So my apologies to any woman who felt affronted by my posting. It
is worth saying that concepts such as I posted are not just put forward by
men. Many women analysts have held to such concepts.
This is DEFINITELY my last posting on the ADD and ADHD issue. That is until
my research is finished.
Kind Regards
Gerald
-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Sandelson <[log in to unmask]>
To: psych-couns Mailinglist <[log in to unmask]>
Date: 02 May 2000 22:00
Subject: Re: Respectful etc and Re: ADD & ADHD
>Klein evoked strong polarised emotions, due I think to the disturbing
>subject matter. Perhaps this is why the list is becoming heated in its
>discourse at this point.
>
>Adam Sandelson
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: G.F. Phillips <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
>Date: 02 May 2000 21:35
>Subject: Re: ADD & ADHD
>
>
>>Dear Stephen
>>I have replied in the main to your message separately. (Feminists)
>>You may be interested to read Barbara Dockar Drysdale; 'Therapy and
>>Consultation in Child Care
>>Gerald
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Rennie, Steve [HES] <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
>>Date: 02 May 2000 11:43
>>Subject: RE: ADD & ADHD
>>
>>
>>>Helen (and others in the ADHD thread), I have been a playworker since the
>>late 1960s, mostly on adventure playgrounds in the UK. In the last
fifteen
>>years my direct work with children has tended to be more specialist. Over
>>the years many children have come to me with labels, increasingly of late
>>ADHD. I have never yet found a child labelled in that way who was unable
to
>>relate to me constructively and attentively through their play. In a short
>>series of experiments, I asked principal carers, who had expressed major
>>concerns about their relationships with their children, to engage with
them
>>in imaginal play. Every one reported considerable and sustained
>improvements
>>both in their relationships with the child and in the child's
relationships
>>with others.
>>>
>>>My observations of children with their principal carers (overwhelmingly
>>their mothers) appear to indicate that most apparently anti-social
>>behaviours exhibited by the children are best explained as "dysplay",
>>distorted play cues arising from increasingly desperate attempts on the
>part
>>of the child to get playful interaction with the carer. A short period of
>>accurate response to play cues appears to diminish this "dysplay"
>>dramatically and in a sustained fashion.
>>>
>>>The major problem I have had in gaining acceptance of this technique,
>would
>>appear to be its lack of seriousness. Engaging with a child in imaginal
>play
>>looks silly and adult participants often say that it feels silly at first.
>>One mother of a four year old who had set fire to his nursery school and
>his
>>house said that it felt she was ignoring the problem when she just played
>>cars (with noises) while lying on the carpet with him. However, she also
>>said that the end of that session, when he spontaneously cuddled her, was
>>the first time that had happened since he had been a baby.
>>>
>>>If I had made the option of medication for the child available to that
>>mother at the outset, I am sure that she would have taken it. She would
>have
>>felt she was addressing a serious problem seriously.
>>>
>>>Stephen Rennie, Leeds Metropolitan University
>>>[log in to unmask]
>>>
>>
>>
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