----- Original Message -----
From: Helen <[log in to unmask]>
To: G.F. Phillips <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: ADD & ADHD
> Gerald
>
> 'All women envy the Penis' - I resent this statement for a number of
> reasons. Firstly I wonder how many gay woman would agree with you? Why
> would a woman envy something that deflates in later life, lets face it
you
> only get 2 years use out of a penis (maximum). Also all women are taught
> from a very early age that all men only think with their penis, recent
> statistics show that one in two women prefer chocolate to sex, long live
the
> Cadburys flake! It does the same job but tastes a hundred times better.
> I really do not like lowering myself to this level, however, there was no
> need for your statement I feel it was totally uncalled for and was petty
and
> pathetic and just like an insecure man to come out with.
>
> Hel.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: G.F. Phillips <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 6:53 PM
> Subject: Re: ADD & ADHD
>
>
> > Dear Stephen
> > I swore, in an earlier message I said that I would not , under any
> > circumstances reply to anything bearing the the name ADHD. I am however
> > moved by your message.
> >
> > It is unfortunate that I should reply to you in a psychodynamic way.
I
> > totally support you in your statement. It feels unfortunate to me
that
> in
> > this politically correct society, that we should not be allowed to
suggest
> > the MOTHER as being important. She is , indeed, terribly importamt in
> the
> > upbringing of the infant. Without the Mother we should surely be lost.
I
> > consider feminists' to be without breast and without that which could be
> > described as WOMANHOOD. For the Femiinists amongst you, can reply, but
> > before you do please listen from a Feminist Friend; 'If my foetus is
male
> I
> > will kill it' After birth the BABY (BOY) was the love of her life
and
> is
> > now a Consultant Physician in a a major taeching hospital, in London.
His
> > mother is in constant contact and tells me that the milk is still in her
> > breasts. SOMEONE EXPLAIN IF YOU CAN?
> >
> > Due to the abuse in this group, I am not in the least interested in the
> > political views of the feminist movement, but only from WOMEN in the
true
> > sense of the word.
> >
> > Gerald
> >
> >
> > ' All Women envy the Penis'
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rennie, Steve [HES] <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: 02 May 2000 11:43
> > Subject: RE: ADD & ADHD
> >
> >
> > >Helen (and others in the ADHD thread), I have been a playworker since
the
> > late 1960s, mostly on adventure playgrounds in the UK. In the last
> fifteen
> > years my direct work with children has tended to be more specialist.
Over
> > the years many children have come to me with labels, increasingly of
late
> > ADHD. I have never yet found a child labelled in that way who was unable
> to
> > relate to me constructively and attentively through their play. In a
short
> > series of experiments, I asked principal carers, who had expressed major
> > concerns about their relationships with their children, to engage with
> them
> > in imaginal play. Every one reported considerable and sustained
> improvements
> > both in their relationships with the child and in the child's
> relationships
> > with others.
> > >
> > >My observations of children with their principal carers (overwhelmingly
> > their mothers) appear to indicate that most apparently anti-social
> > behaviours exhibited by the children are best explained as "dysplay",
> > distorted play cues arising from increasingly desperate attempts on the
> part
> > of the child to get playful interaction with the carer. A short period
of
> > accurate response to play cues appears to diminish this "dysplay"
> > dramatically and in a sustained fashion.
> > >
> > >The major problem I have had in gaining acceptance of this technique,
> would
> > appear to be its lack of seriousness. Engaging with a child in imaginal
> play
> > looks silly and adult participants often say that it feels silly at
first.
> > One mother of a four year old who had set fire to his nursery school and
> his
> > house said that it felt she was ignoring the problem when she just
played
> > cars (with noises) while lying on the carpet with him. However, she also
> > said that the end of that session, when he spontaneously cuddled her,
was
> > the first time that had happened since he had been a baby.
> > >
> > >If I had made the option of medication for the child available to that
> > mother at the outset, I am sure that she would have taken it. She would
> have
> > felt she was addressing a serious problem seriously.
> > >
> > >Stephen Rennie, Leeds Metropolitan University
> > >[log in to unmask]
> > >
> >
>
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