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Subject:

Re: T* safety survey

From:

"peter comer" <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

peter comer

Date:

Tue, 17 Oct 2000 22:46:15 GMT

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To: Jamisongreen
From:Anne Ashby(Peter Comer, as was...)

So WELL put.  We all know that we will have different histories from the
norm of our adopted gender.  However much we strive for a workable
coexistence with a polarised society, we will inevitably physically or
mentally clash from time to time.  I speak as a specimen in a country that
has espoused 'the third way' (for those of you who are not familiar with the
last UK General Election, go and look it up!) - the political rhetoric has
been silenced by the realities of government.  We ARE a third way - even if
our third way is a kaleidascope - and we fail in our duty to ourselves if we
ignore the pressing need to educate and foster understanding....

Anne (and I shall now dismount from my hobby-horse!!!)

______________

Need we argue about the case for a T* safety survey any longer?..........

yours,

Anne.
___________________________

>From: [log in to unmask]
>Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
>To: [log in to unmask]
>CC: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: T* safety survey
>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 14:47:31 EDT
>
>In a message dated 10/13/2000 1:40:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
>[log in to unmask] writes:
>
><< I encourage passing.  Being stealth like a ninja and only being out to
>friends
>  and other safe people.
>
>      It has worked for me.
>
>      All this outness seems self defeating.
>
>      I'm not a third gender.
>
>      Suzan Cooke >>
>
>Hi Suzan,
>
>I don't mean to argue with you, and I'm leaving on a long trip tomorrow so
>may miss much email, but I just wanted to say that I understand your point,
>yet I hope you will reconsider it.  I am a man (albeit one who was born
>with
>a female body).  I, too, am not a third gender; I am masculine and male.  I
>pass completely, and am virtually invisible socially.  However, my body is
>different from that of other men, and it always will be (even though I am
>post-op and legally male).  Pretending that this difference does not exist
>would be harmful to me as a person, and potentially harmful to my physical
>health.  Making no effort to educate society at large about our existence
>does not serve us when we are hospitalized, or jailed, or in transition
>(when
>we appear gender-variant), or when we cannot afford surgery (as many FTMs
>cannot), or when we are victimized or incapacitated in any way.  I would
>hope
>you would consider this in your resistance to the concept of advocacy for
>safety for transpeople.
>
>Jamison Green

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