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From: Sam D. More <[log in to unmask]>
To: Katherine Cummings <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Friday, 14 July 2000 4:57
Subject: Re: Size of trans population
>At 04:13 PM 7/14/00 +1000, you wrote:
>>
>>>3-6 are definitely to high for transsexuals. I guess less than 1% of the
>>>gay population is in fact
>>>transsexual, that would put the numbers to 1/1000 which seem also in the
>>>light of native cultural
>>>traditions somewhat believeble (one needs a certain fraction to come up
>>>with elaborate customs for them)
>>
>>
>>What is the relevance of this reference to the gay population? Is Dr More
>>suggesting that transsexuals are a sub-group of the gay population? I
doubt
>>it and I have never seen any study which demonstrated this.
>>
>>Katherine Cummings
>
>They are not a true sub-group of the gay but most FTM and many Mtf actually
>go through a transitory stage in the
>gay population, where they are far less in hiding than in the normal
>population, therefore easier to be counted.
What proof do you have of this? I have known several hundred transsexuals
and can only think of one who actively pursued a gay life before transition.
I have known many transsexuals who "hid" among the transvestites I was one)
before discovering enough about themselves to know where they really
belonged. A high proportion of those who transition at a mature age have
married in the interim and raised families.
> Actually they have enriched it tremendiously culturally and if one recalls
>Stonewall: this uprising was due to the
>oppression of the transgendered and transsexual spectrum of the gay
>population.
True, but not relevant. And what precisely is meant by "tremendiously
culturally" enriching a society?
>If one would suspect that the transgendered subpopulation among straight
>people would be similar
>one would come to much larger figures. Actually the numbers in the
>netherlands give a 1/500
>ratio for Mtf and a 1/15000 ratio of FTM in the general population. As this
>numbers of both FTM and MTF
>increased in the recent past and older people tend to abdon the thought of
>transitioning the actual figures
>must be higher.
Are there studies to support these assertions? How do you define "older"? I
can cite a number of people who transitioned about the age one might expect
middle age crisis (I for one was 52) and I know one person who had her op.
in her seventies and one who waited for her wife to die before transitioning
in her sixties.
Katherine Cummings
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