>From: "Mairi MacDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
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>Subject: Re: GIRES
>Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 16:56:04 +0000
>
>On 15 Jan 00 at 20:22, tryke Sister wrote :
>
> > I felt it was necessary to point out
> > that said person *medically may* be intersexed,
>
>Not sure why you should feel it necessary - there is not a whit of
>evidence to suggest that the child in question was intersexed.
>
> > thus basically drawing
> > attention to the doctor's MNSHO inaccuracy as well as predjudice
> > against transpeople.
>
>Had the child been intersexed, the doctor's diagnosis would have been
>*correct*. But even then, surgical reassignment would probably have
>been contra-indicated.
>
>Let me state the facts again - this was a genetically male child
>whose genitalia (male) were deformed, quite consistant with
>cloacal exstrophy. There was nothing whatever intersexed about the
>child; what *could* be said is that she has all the characteristics
>consistant with being trans, except for one vital one -
>self-identification. It would have been astonishing had she had, as she
>was one year old when the initial genital surgery was performed on her.
Well, OK, either way -- I'd prefer to agree to disagree on this one,
especially as I'm much more concerned about how the woman in question ID's
than what either you or I feel that they are. FWIW, I think most IS
diagnoses are a bunch of oppressive bunk, for the reasons you state below.
(Unless it's tied to a life-threatening medical condition requiring
treatment, like salt-wasting CAH. But most IS conditions don't require
intervention, so I'm rather spinning my wheels here.
Speaking of which....
>
>But this diagnosis ran contrary to the agenda of the practitioner in
>question and so he pushed the "intersexed" diagnosis - and got away
>with it. He then attempted to create a smokescreen by using the earlier
>quoted abusive, insulting and dismissive language about trans people.
>
>To invite such a practitioner to serve on an advisory board of a
>body which is supposed to serve the trans and intersexed communities
>defies reason.
*absolutely* no argument. This kind of stuff happens to trans and intersexed
people all the time. It's an egregious and abusive violation of our rights.
>
>Using the same flawed logic, perhaps NATO should invite Slobodan
>Milosevic to serve as an advisor on human rights ....
:-/ Exactly.
tryke
>
>--
>mairi macdonald
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