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Subject:

Re: American rave scenes/"I'm not gay, I'm rolling"/ gender identities

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anthony avery <[log in to unmask]>

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Thu, 09 Mar 2000 16:06:58 -0700

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--On Thursday, March 09, 2000, 5:38 PM +0000 David Muggleton
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Anthony,
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> Can't say that I have empirical experience of this phenomeon at raves, but
> there is the distinction that can be made between 'being gay' and merely
> 'doing gay' - that is I might perform activities that are indicative of
> gay behaviour but I don't feel that this is my self-concept as
> subjectively defined. I might be wrong but I think that Laud Humphreys'
> classic ethnography Tea Room Trade makes some reference to this. I also
> know that Sue Widdicombe and Rob Wooffitt's work on subcultures and
> discursive identifications also makes reference to the distinction
> between 'being' punk and merely 'doing' it, which is the basis for a
> claim about one's authenticity. 'Proper' punks internalise the
> self-concept (being) while 'pretenders' are seen merely to go through the
> requisite actions (doing) So undoubtedly this type of distinction is one
> that informs all cultural activities. See Widdicombe, S and Wooffitt, R.
> (1990) 'Being vs doing punk: on achieving authenticity as a member',
> Journal of Langauge and Social Psychology, Vol 9, No 4, pp 257-77. 
> 
> David
> Thanks for the pointers. Yes, there probably is a difference between
"being gay" as
a subjective sexual identity and performing queerness. In fact that is a
good question to ask
my colleagues. Moreover, does performing gender become an oxymoron if, as I
argue, social identites such as gender and sexual identity(ies) disappear
on the dance floor.
There is no one to perform queerness because they are "lost." Hence, the
title of my
Ph.D. "Are You There?" Which is also a popular techno anthem by Josh Wink.
; Anthony 
>>>> anthony avery <[log in to unmask]> 02/25 11:33 pm >>> I can't tell you how
> many times I heard from males "I'm not
> gay, I'm rolling" (On Ecstasy) then proceed to make out with another
> guy,etc. If its bisexuality then it would be presumed that they would
> realize their sexuality and act on it outside the context of rave (maybe a
> too big assumption). But most of these boys have girlfriends who attend
> raves with them! "That's my fiancee, over there." Then he kisses this boy.
> On and on. It seems to me that the combination of dance, drugs, and
> repetitive beats alter consciousness, alter gender identities. 
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