From: "Andrew Jackson" <[log in to unmask]>
> Hi Scott,
>
> >Also, Kristeva seems unaware of the studies that have
> been done of 'psychotic discourse' which indicate that
> it (some of it, at least) is meaningful, does employ
> tokens of meaning in an organised fashion...<
>
> Wasn't it Laing, though, who pioneered this very approach? That
> you only had to *listen* closely enough to discover the meaning in
> psychotic discourse? This to me was his greatest achievement --
> the apprehension that Meaning was not the sole possession of
> those wearing the white coats.
On this particular point, Jung was at it well before Laing. It was one of
his main (main? main!) quarrels with Freud -- that Freud was OK on
neurotics, but couldn't cope diddly squat with psychotics (in the late 19th
/early 20thC terminology).
Robin Hamilton
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