>This book
>supports, not surprisingly, the majority contention that humans have been
>hunter/gatherers throughout 98% of their history and all of our (Homo
>sapiens) shared history. This has major implications to diet and nutrition
>which the vegans, vegetarians, et al. want to ignore.

Steve,

Do you just ignore my expertise? Do you think you know more than me? Why
don't you respond to what I've been asserting? All the evidence I've come
across, historical, physiological, medical, points to the exact opposite of
what you insist on asserting. I notice how you never respond to my postings,
especially since that last one months back where I showed you how fallacious
your points were, so I'm not planning on you responding to me. 

But I can't resist. You seem to think that we vegetarians/vegans ignore
history, a history that you, among the intelligntsia, are priveleged to
understand. We just ignore it all, huh?

YOU can't reckon with the facts of what we're saying; it's you who ignore
us. We HAVE looked at history, and biology, and the medical facts, and they
ALL point to the evidence that the human species is herbivorous. That's why
we get intestinal cancers when we rely on meat--its digestion takes a strong
digestive acid which we herbivores aren't eqipped with; acid balances are
highly conducive to tumors. That's why we get arteriosclerosis. That's why
we get osteoporosis. Did you know these things are unheard of primitive
societies where vegetarianism is common? Did you know that we have about the
highest rates of osteoporosis in the world? Why? Animal protein,
unequivocably. But you won't find mainstream doctors saying this. It's
incontovertibility is new, but more important it flys in the face of massive
monied interests.

You made a comment some time ago about are teeth being carvivores'; couldn't
be further from the truth. Every aspect of our biology is that of
herbivores. Do you have an answer for that or are you just going to ignore
me so you can feel justified eating steak and hunting?

How about history? The evidence I've seen is this: a) primitive folks with
primitive tools were highly unsuccessful in their hunting escapades. This
had to have been the case. The classis example of tribe is NA running large
animals off the cliffs was ritualistic, very occcasional to say the least.
Hunters today have small success rates, even with high-powered artillery;
imagine the success rate with stones and sticks... b) meat eating is an
appropriation from the rich to the poor. Poor European populations looked to
royalty, for example, and decided that when they had enough money, they
wanted to be like the rich folks. Enter Economic Growth as a religion, the
French revolution, etc.

How about the medical evidence that vegetarianism makes people thrive, while
meat eating tends to me folks week and susceptible to a wide variety of the
most severe degenerative diseases? Do you ignore the medical facts? This is
common knowledge among doctors. The sort of doctors (like my
neurologist/psychiatrist Yale brother) who say that vegetarianism is
"dangerous" are hopelessly out of date with the medical facts (my brother is
so lost in his research he hardly knows a thing outside of his speciality.)
Do you know that doctors in this country receive about 4 hours of nutrition
training during their entire careers.

Once again (I should go on, but I won't waste my breath), you seem to go on
what the simplistic, superfical, mainstream assessments are. YOU don't look
hard enough at medicine, biology, history. Don't go making slanderous
statements about huge sections of the population, especially when you're
information is flat out wrong. Why don't respond to some of the specifics
mentioned above? Scared? Worried that their answers prove you wrong. 

I'm sick of people thinking that vegetarians are trying to foist our beliefs
on the innocent. On the contrary, we know the facts and are worried that
folks like you (hunters, meat eaters) are hurting yourselves, our world and
the animals. It's not your world alone. The things you do affect all those
around you. Have some compassion.

Adam


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