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Subject:

RE: "unethical preservationism" was Re: Sustainable Development

From:

"Chris Perley" <[log in to unmask]>

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Date:

Sun, 30 Jul 2000 18:45:56 +1200

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This is pointless.  And I have never declared a view on sustainable
development on this list recently.  Just another example of a presupposition
that is incorrect John.  Read back over the last few weeks.  I happen to
believe the earth is a finite closed system but for one thing - energy from
the sun - so photosynthesis is a vital key to our survival (and PLEASE don't
mention solar cells to me, I couldn't bear it).  I also have no idea where
you got "a prior" from.  Have a re-read.  But it doesn't matter.  I am
slightly curious to know what constructive comments you have about a
substitute for the free lunch of photosynthesis for our energy needs John.
Like, how are you going to balance the energy costs and ozone depletion from
flying all the eco-tourists all over the world?  But on second thoughts,
perhaps not.  I am apparently in the "non-environmentalist" "exploitative"
camp.  You, on the other hand, are an "environmentalist".  It is - as you
say - a choice (an either - or) of preservation OR non-preservation - good
guy saver OR bad guy despoiler - ethical OR unethical - a world without
people OR a world with people.  No room for the AND.  God help us, because
obviously we are not intent on helping ourselves.  Give me a break.

Chris Perley

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [log in to unmask]
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of John Foster
> Sent: Sunday, 30 July 2000 15:51
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: RE: "unethical preservationism" was Re: Sustainable Development
>
>
> Chris Perley,
>
> I think that you are confusing  interests with positions (in
> discussion with
> you on this list) through  your 'a prior' terms of reference re
> preservation.
>
> Some people are expressing an interest, but not a position. So you often
> resort to characterization of the people that you disagree with, and
> characterization that does not win you support from the people
> that you need
> support from.
>
> In general the discussion has been going like that for over a month. Those

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