Major? Major...who said major? I do believe I said it was one of the
considerations.
:-p
Steve
--- Steven Bissell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> My point is that strong global warming policy will probably cost
> developed
> nations more than developing nations. The opportunity costs and actual
> costs
> will be borne by the rich nations disproportionately. But, that is not a
> strong enough (ethical) issue to disregard the need for global warming
> policy of some type. So far we are seeing the U.S., in particular, say
> that
> no policy is needed. I'm not convinced that the most drastic measures
> are
> needed, but "no policy" is just as bad. Dubyah Bush said repeatedly in
> the
> campaign that he is against any global warming policy at this time. Not
> conservative policy, "no policy." The major reasons being given are the
> economic costs to US business. During Dubyah's father's time in the
> White
> House his staff blocked all global warming policy because the global
> models
> were suspect. I agree that they were suspect, but that is not reason for
> no
> policy, models are. . .well, just models, not data or even theory, just
> models.
>
> I'm afraid that my original point is getting lost in all this. I don't
> know
> which set of "facts" about global warming are correct, or more correct I
> guess. But, I do know that there is enough information to kick in the
> first
> stage of the policy process, "Initiation" (See Brewer and deLeon
> _Foundations of Policy Analysis_). Not to do anything is an ethical
> abdication in government. Take any issue you want, if there is an
> expressed
> concern it is the proper role of government to at least initiate the
> policy
> process and see what is needed. What we are seeing is the "ostrich"
> approach
> to the issue. "Let's wait and see what happens, then we'll develop
> policy."
> That is an ethical issue in itself.
>
> And, I still don't buy economics as a *major* ethical issue, although
> I'll
> agree it influences other ethical issues. And, I'm not a communist or
> even a
> socialist. I'm an anarchist.
> Steven
>
> http://www.du.edu/~sbissell
> What we lost with that wild, primal existence
> was a way of being for which the era of
> agriculture and civilization lacks counterpoise.
> Human life is the poorer for it.
> Paul Shepard
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: This list has been established to provide a discussion forum, and
> information, for [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Steve
> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 9:35 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: FW: global warming, energy, ethics
>
>
> Yes and your point is?
>
> We should go ahead with the global warming treaty because it will cost
> developed nations lots of money?
>
> Hmmmm....why am I thinking watermelon? Green on the outside, red on the
> inside. :-p & <j/k>
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> --- Steven Bissell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Come on Steve, you know the point was that objections to global
> warming
> > policy are mainly from the developed nations because it will cost them
> > the
> > most. I think you've been debating Foster too long and have "caught
> it."
> > Steven
> >
> > . . .in the last days he lost his appetite
> > and fed only on vegetables. He soon acquired
> > the forlorn look that one sees in vegetarians.
> > His skin became covered with a thin moss,
> > similar to that which flourished on the
> > antique vest that he never took off,
> > and his breath exhaled the order of a
> > sleeping animal.
> > Gabriel Garcia Marquez, 1967
> > One Hundred Years of Solitude
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: This list has been established to provide a discussion forum,
> and
> > information, for [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of
> Steve
> > Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 6:06 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: FW: global warming, energy, ethics
> >
> >
> > --- spiritwear <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > Steve wrote...
> > >
> > > > Well, isn't the economic well being of people one of the ethical
> > > > considerations?
> > >
> > > My question is, Which people?
> >
> > I find it curious you feel a need to segregate people.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > =====
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> believe
> > in a
> > 'Satan', but this man is as close to 'the real McCoy' as they come."
> > --Jamey Lee West
> >
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