--- Michael Meuser <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Either it's a dated article or?? Natural gas prices have been soaring
> upwards. This article says geothermal is having troubles because
> it is being undercut by decreasing natural gas prices.
Michael it was in reference to the comment about heavy metals from
geothermal electricity generation.
Steve
>
> Ahh, I see - It's based on 1996 data. Not so timely. Things have
> changed a bit since then, right??
>
> mike
>
> > Of course why believe us corporate scumbags.
> >
> > How about the DOE?
> >
> >
>
http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/solar.renewables/renewable.energy.annual/back
> > grnd/chap9d.htm
> >
> > By the way, California is one of few states in the U.S. that has
> > geothermal generation...and guess which company....
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- John Foster <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > First of all I don't know where you get your knowledge from, Steve.
> The
> > > assertions yu make like the following:
> > >
> > > 1. can I generate electricity from geothermal;
> > >
> > > 2. geothermal puts heavy metals into the ecosystem
> > >
> > > indicate to me that (a) you are clueless about geothermal and living
> as
> > > you do in California where geothermal supplies up to 2 % of the
> state's
> > > electricity, and (b) you do have knowledge about heavy metals. Now I
> > > would like you to demonstrate grounds for claim (2) that geothermal
> puts
> > > heavy metals into the environment.
> > >
> > > Are you drinking something? If not then ....get a glass of Merlot,
> > > preferable Mission Hill....Merlot. If you are really sober, then I
> want
> > > to see what you are capable of 'under the influence' and don't you
> love
> > > Dean Martin?
> > >
> > > I got it you live near Disney Land?
> > >
> > >
> > > At 05:13 PM 12/9/00 -0800, Steve wrote:
> > > >--- John Foster <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > >> Well I guess the alternative is putting your hand onto a 'hot
> plate'
> > > or
> > > >> a
> > > >> 'toaster'. Since when does electricity have any heat in it? I
> heat
> > > with
> > > >> wood
> > > >> because (a) it is cheap, (b) because it is free, (c) because it
> is
> > > >> plentiful, (d) because it is considered waste in the logging
> slash
> > > pile,
> > > >> and
> > > >> (e) I get some exercise in cutting it. All I get from heating
> with
> > > >> electricity is poorer....
> > > >>
> > > >> As far as wind generators smacking a few birds in the jaw, the
> fact
> > > is
> > > >> that
> > > >> the 500 coal fired electric plants in the US and Canada are not
> only
> > > >> killing birds but poisoning the earth and water with acidity, and
> > > >> heavy
> > > metals
> > > >> leaching from the soil, killing fish and poisoning loons. And do
> not
> > > >
> > > >So does geothermal electricity generation.
> > > >
> > > >Also, it isn't just birds getting chopped up. You have to build
> lots
> > > of
> > > >wing mills. A windmill farm WILL change the surrounding ecosystem.
> > > The
> > > >question is by how much. If you impose a load constraint then I
> think
> > > >given the current technology it is a toss up.
> > > >
> > > >Notice the name, renewables. It isn't enviro-friendly,
> enviromentally
> > > >neutral, or eco-system safe, it is renewable. All this means is
> that
> > > it
> > > >is a source of energy that will not be used up, unlike fossil
> fuels.
> > > The
> > > >assumption is that renewable ==> eco-friendly, and this may very
> well
> > > not
> > > >be the case at all.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> forget
> > > >> all the radiation that is spewed into the air from coal burning
> as
> > > well
> > > >> as
> > > >> lead, cadmium and zinc. That coal is filthy compared to wind
> power...
> > > >
> > > >Ditto for geothermal.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> How come you always copy the words that I use. I say linear and
> use
> > > say
> > > >> linear, I say distortion and manipulation and then you say it?
> Maybe
> > > you
> > > >> are
> > > >> engaging finally in the refrain....sing along now....
> > > >
> > > >How about this, you offer a biased picture.
> > > >
> > > >I don't think you have used those exact words.
> > > >
> > > >Yeah, and so do I. The difference is that I am pretty much
> up-front
> > > with
> > > >the fact that I think the market works pretty well in many cases.
> > > >
> > > >Steve
> > > >
> > > >=====
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> believe
> > > in
> > > a 'Satan', but this man is as close to 'the real McCoy' as they
> come."
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