Comments below.
--- John Foster <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Steve writes
> >See John, your logic IS faulty here. You are assuming that since BM
> has
> >in the past done PR work that is questionable that all PR work is bad.
> >However, doesn't Greenpeace do PR work?
>
> I don't think so. They are the public. These folks are just doing what
Fallacy of composition. We have several people here who have stated that
at one time they donated to Greenpeace, but have now stopped. Greenpeace
is NOT the public. They are an organization that takes money from a
subset of the public.
> is
> necesssary to get things accomplished. They put their tiny little bodies
Wrong. According to what we have seen posted here, they are about
effecting radical change. There seems to be little interest in whether or
not this radical change is for the better or worse. That is, they seem to
be stuck in a mindset of
1. We need to scare people to increase contributions
2. We can scare people about topic X.
a. Who cares if what we tell them is wrong, so long as it scares them
3. Once our policy recommendations are adopted we need to create a new
scare.
Greenpeace appears to be acting like lots of government beauracracies.
They never cease to exist, even if the problem they were created to solve
is solved! They just look for a new problem and move on, and grow, and
such up more tax dollars.
> onto big objects of great commercial success and pragmatic usefulness
> and
> only get noticed by people that way. Greenpeace does not have slots
> during
> prime time TV each week. They do - as principled actions always do -
> operate
> in our heads and hearts though.
Not quite, instead they do things to get free airtime on the news.
> Greenpeace is not a public relations firm because they do not need to
> restore their reputation nor do they pollute or clearcut.
Well, if you get right down to it, most of the members and the people
working for them are probably just as polluting as me. At another site I
participate at, someone noted that Greenpeace activits were using
snowmobiles at an Ice Camp up north while monitoring construction of a
pipeline (IIRC). Snowmobiles? Snowmobiles?!?! Why not dog sleads, snow
shoes and skis?
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Steve
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"In a nutshell, he [Steve] is 100% unadulterated evil. I do not believe in a 'Satan', but this man is as close to 'the real McCoy' as they come."
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