At 12:33 PM 8/5/00 -0600, Steven Bissell wrote:
>Sorry John, I still don't get it; is BM bad because they are big?
I thought you wanted evidence that they are the biggest PR firm. Now you are
asking me another question. I cannot make evaluations for you. That is up to
you to decided from the evidence. You wanted evidence right?
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The Pope and Queen Elizabeth make lots of money. Are they bad?
>PR firms work for anyone who hires them, almost. But to say that BM worked
for Exxon >on the Valez spill and now works for whomever, that "proves"
whomever is as bad as >Exxon??
What do you mean by almost? What PR firms don't work for everyone? Can you
give me evidence?
The Exxon Valdez was 'bad' for wildlife. Why did Exxon need to hire BM? if
not to change perceptions? Afterall this cleanup operation I think cost
about $2 billion, so I guess that is bad for Exxon shareholders.
>Simply bad logic John.
There is no such thing as bad logic. Logic is logic. If you look at the
definition of logic by Russell in "Truth and Meaning" it says that what is
logic but what is called "follows". I have not even made a statement about
BM yet of my own. I have only posted information from the web.
Is not the definition of propaganda 'telling the truth'?
Why do large companies need to hire BM if not to improve their reputations
through perception? BM is in the business of perception. Go to the PRRA
website and that is what they offer: changing perceptions only, and
ultimately the firms reputation.
It gets a little bit of concern for ethicists when the set up 'grassroots'
organizations to defeat democratically mandated environmental rules and
policies on clean air?
>I don't know (or care) about BM, but your damnation
>by association is propaganda in the worst sense, maybe you ought to see
>about work at BM.
>sb
Well if you want to use strong language, go ahead but none of those posts
were written by me; so your anger is misplaced and I don't deserve your
attributions to me.
john foster
Speaking of Bush's record, the slogan "Leave No Child Behind" is actually
offensive. This is the man who tried to knock 200,000 poor kids out of a
health insurance program funded by 3-to-1 federal matching dollars. This is
the guy who thinks that a useless property tax cut is more important than
funding kindergarten. I say `useless' because most school districts in the
state promptly upped their tax rates.
Molly Ivins
http://www.star-telegram.com/columnist/ivins2.htm
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