At a concert in which I think it was Ruggles' "Suntreader" was being
premiered Charles Ives stood up and shouted at the jeering audience "Stand
up and use your ears like a man!" Sorry for the pedantry--they're both
among my heroes.
At 01:35 PM 3/6/00 GMT, Peter Riley wrote:
>>>on a different tack, what do people have to say about bunting in gender
>terms? if one wanted to play devil's advocate then one could say that it's
>all rather masculinist, another attempt to prove that poetry is proper work
>for men to be doing, i.e. not effeminate.
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>Not just Bunting, these habits were absolutely endemic to the entire Pound
>enterprise (EP used the word "masculine" as a quality term for poetry) ,
>also in art (W Lewis) music (the American modernists -- "Use your ears like
>a MAN dammit!" (quote Carl Ruggles) (men compose, women play harps) and of
>course on the other side of the poetical fence too- civil service poets,
>Bridges (poet laureate) --these were all clubland poets, conservative or
>modernist it made no difference. (with exceptions, on both sides, which
>are pretty rare except for the US/Paris crowd)
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>Best thing is to ignore it as a factor of a more primitive stage of
>society, and be grateful for what came through. Or treat it much more
>seriously in the entire history of gender specific activity and production
>from prehistory onwards.
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