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Re: Sulphides in iron continued

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"Tim Young" <[log in to unmask]>

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Sat, 4 Mar 2000 21:11:57 -0000

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Dear Chris

Thanks for your comments. To start with the last first (!) I would 
agree that this is nothing to do with smelting - this is a 
blacksmithing slag. Several other respondents have suggested 
these might be sulphides "inherited" from a sulphide-rich ore - but I 
doubt such minerals would survive the smelting process, although 
it is just conceivable that the sulphur could be thus derived and has 
subsequently formed new sulphide minerals. Later incorporation 
during contact with coal in the smithy seems much more likely - 
but the mechanism is less clear to me - and I'll come back to that 
below).

The only analyses I have at present are rather poor (don't ask...), 
but give S:Fe (atomic proportions) of about 1.3, but what this really 
means I wouldn't like to say.

I interpret the slag/iron contact and the slag "inclusions" texture as 
a product of the freezing of the system with the iron fragment in the 
process of dissolving in the slag. The marginal texture certainly 
appears this way - and the internal "slag inclusions" also appear to 
me to be over enlarged - they probably are closely connected with 
the surface out of the plane of the section. The slag composition in 
the pores and immediately outside is very similar in terms of major 
elements:

		pore		outside metal	typical
Al2O3		10.0		10.6		14.6
SiO2		50.5		50.1		56.0
FeO		38.9		38.9		17.9
MnO		0.24		<		<
MgO		1.9		2.9		6.2
TiO2		0.49		0.50		0.77
CaO		5.65		5.43		3.1
K2O		2.77		2.53		3.7
S		0.73		0.38		0.1
P		1.73		0.38		<

(where typical = glass composition about 1cm away, where iron 
fragments are absent)

So there is a strong compostional gradient in the glass 
composition across the specimen (from lining dominated material 
at one extreme) to iron-rich where the metal is dissolving. But, the 
glass close to the iron is the same as that inside (more-or-less). 
The slag within the metal represents penetration of the melt outside 
exploiting perhaps the original slag inclusions of the wrought iron - 
or maybe even exploiting the sulphide inclusions. It is intriguing, 
however, why Ca, K, P, S show such a strong association here 
with the iron.

So - back to the sulphides and their origin. It seems to me that 
there are two possiblities:

1. as you suggest, that the sulphides have been incorporated either 
from surface, or through incorporation in a weld, BEFORE this 
fragment was lost from the workpiece. As you mention, this 
material would be very hot short (perhaps explaining why it 
detached from the workpiece?).

2. alternatively, a piece of conventional iron was lost to the hearth 
where it has scavenged sulphur (perhaps preferentially within the 
carious texture developed during its dissolution into the relatively 
silicic slag) AFTER being lost. The presently enclosing slag is 
relatively low S however.

The fine debris from the smithing operations includes both coal and 
charcoal residues and it seems both were being used in the 
hearths. I haven't analysed any coal to see if it is particularly 
sulphurus.

I'm rather pleased to hear that you have seen similar material in 
modern smithing debris - do you know what the fuel was in those 
instances (coke, coal...?).

Best wishes

Tim





Dr Tim Young
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